Pow Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 alright so heres the deal: i washed out of a few toeside carves the other day because of "knee out", i guess you could call it. same effect as boot out, but with my back knee. I was bending it out away from the other knee, should i not have done that? or could the source of the problem actually be something else that im missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrobb Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 ...maybe just turn rear angle a tad higher ~3-5deg. low angles and too much heel lift? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I agree with trying Jrobb's suggestion about the binding angle. Also, instead of driving that back knee into the turn, drive from the hips instead. In other words, don't just bend your knees to put the board on egde, drive the hip down. And don't turn your body in the direction of the toeside turn -- keep it aligned with your binding angles or maybe even a little toward the front of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 drive your hip into the turn and stand up a little more? can't tell without pics? but if your back knee is hitting the snow, that should help. look at the madd website for the pic of Chris K in a toeside turn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 The only toeside picture i own, taken at slow speeds and off piste in ice crust (it was all i could do to keep my balance), but i think it illustrates the problem a bit (my back knee is very close to the snow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 perhaps straigtening the front knee more would put the back knee in its proper place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 yeah I'd say stand up a little and drive into the turn with your hip rather than your knee. Your legs will last longer too, as staying crouched like that uses a lot more energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Get kneepads. I've worn them for years. If your knee isn't brushing the snow, you're not tipping it over enough. Kneel towards the apex when you start the turn. Your hips will come forward naturally, but only if you keep your hands away from the snow, parallel to the surface you're on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gleb Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 as the riders from team32 (loon mtn) would say, Drop the hip! That really is all there is to it. 3rd day of the season from a few weeks ago: <object height="355" width="425"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXrcYs5jRgk&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"></object> now on heelside, don't do what I do, since its a problem I'm still working on. I need to bring the right hand (outside) more forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 testing to be conducted tonight, i will report back as soon as i can. Thanks for the tips everyone, and especially gleb for the vid. hows school going? first semester killed. we have to maintain 2.5 over here or we get the boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gleb Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 no prob man. We have to keep a 2.5 aswell. How did you end up doing? My first semester was easy because I already had all those classes in high school. My gpa after the first year was a whopping 2.23. So I can snowboard the following winter, I took organic chem in the summer and slacked off big time, brining me down to an astounding 2.14. I did get to snowboard 5 days a week last year and it was the best semester of my life because of that. By the end of 2nd year, i had to be up to a 2.5. I got a 3.3 1st semester, and a 3.0 2nd bringing me to a 2.499. The Dean likes me since i went to high school with his daughter, took her snowboarding and what not, so he let me stay in the major. She is a cool girl, and I didnt take her riding just because shes the deans daughter. I still have the screen shot of the online grade database we have of my gpa being that close. 3rd year is where it gets really really tough, but you actually learn stuff thats interesting and useful. I learned more this year than I did the past 5 years of school. got a 2.93 this semester and now my gpa is at 2.59 so now i have a buffer. Just keep with it, and dont slack off like I did. Make a buffer for yourself so you dont have to stress like i did this past semester. I do work better under pressure, so I think its for the best that I was so close to failing. Hope the riding went well tonight. If your knee still sticks out, put more angle on the rear foot, like Jrobb said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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