the 181 is stock coiler shape, i consider it too be a custom because of all the goodies bruce added. i have a 2 degree on the side and a .5 degree on the base. when i was riding these boards i was in colorado, so there wasn't much tuning to be done. since i moved back east i haven't ridden them much, so there is at least 90-95% of the edges left. the base is in great shape. and the topsheet is in as good as shape that a board can be for a year and a half old board.the 181 has a 7.1 flex, its fairly stiff. i have a buddy that tipps the scales at around 160,and he's ridden it and he kills it on the 181.as long as you are an agressive rider, it will work. i wanted it stiff, but i still wanted be able to set an edge to the ice. currently i am in little rhodie. a bank certified check will work the best. the reason for selling my boards??????????????? #1. dont get married.#2. dont build a house.#3. dont buy a new car for wifey.oh, yeah#4. dont do it all in the same month!!!! its gonna kill me when my coilers leave me, but what can you do. are you interested in the 181 or the 164 or both, let me know. i will be away in n.h this weekend then at squaw the following. give me a call 781 858 0539, might not have access to my computer over the weekend. where do you live? thanks j.d