Jack M
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these are great!! can't wait for the rest.
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Check out the Welcome Center for answers to common questions. There's a piece on buying alpine boards.
I also think that all-mountain carving boards are excellent do-it-all boards. You won't regret it.
-Jack
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for one thing there are 960 members of this forum.
also I do believe Fin's sales are improving each year.
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Putting your toes and heels as close to the edge without hanging over is the right place to <i>start</i>. However there is nothing wrong with experimenting, and if you find you are most comfortable and strongest with slightly higher angles, or a higher angle on one foot, that's how you should ride. However, if both your feet are inboard of the edges, you should try a narrower board and see how it feels.
It is true that the maximum mechanical advantage comes at the minimum possible angles for your board width and boot size. Try binding angles of 89 degrees on a 19cm wide board and you'll know this is fact. However, when talking about small increases to your binding angles, the leverage you get from your legs is more significant than the leverage from your feet.
-Jack
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Originally posted by Ken B
If there is a lumber store nearby, I'm sure we can manage this. .........Jack?
Closest would be Jordan's in Kingfield.
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Originally posted by lonerider
Hmmm... good point. How about this. Freestyle is the SUV. Hardboot is the sportscar, motorcycle. And an all-mountian freeride is the sedan?
I'd say freestyle boards and all-mtn freeride are the SUV, boardercross are the sedan, all-mtn carvers are the sportscar (WRX?), freecarves are the supersport bikes (600s), raceboards are the superbikes (1000's)!!
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Originally posted by lonerider
That most people are probably better off getting softboots in the same way most car owners are probably better off buying a sedan over a SUV
This metaphor is totally backwards. Freeride/style decks and softies are the SUV's, carving decks and hardboots are the sedans. No, sportscars. No, motorcycles!!
SUV's are commonly misused by people who think that they "need" an SUV when in fact they just don't.
So too with freeride/style decks. Unless you spend a significant amount of time in the pipe/park and/or riding fakie, there's really no reason for you to be on anything less than a boardercross board. Better yet, get an all-mtn carver. Yet for some reason boardercross boards haven't really caught on. Why? Because people think they "need" a board with a huge nose and tail when they just don't.
Don't even suggest that people don't need hardboots and race boards. Doug, nobody needs to convince you otherwise. I'm happy you like to carve on whatever. The world needs more carvers, regardless of equipment. But take ultracarve's advice and go evangelize to someone else. Arguing against a <i>fact</i> is pointless. The probability of you being right and an entire industry and racing organizations around the globe being wrong is <i>zero</i>.
-Jack
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Originally posted by Mike T
5'10"
My jeans are 30" length
19" wide stance
66*f/63*r
2* toe lift on front
3* heel lift on rear w/ inward cant
Trouble is, what helps free up my hips in the living room often does not help while moving...
Any suggestions on what to try first?
Lose the inward cant. Try straight heel lift on the back foot.
-Jack
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Use a quick cross-through transition. See this article.
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As far as I can tell from that video, it looks like you're sitting down into your heelside too much. Your butt's a little too far off to the side.
It is true that in most sports, "bend your knees!" is good advice. However for us, bending your knees only needs to be a function of how much shock absorbtion you need. Carves don't happen because we bend our knees, we bend our knees because we're carving. That is, lean in first, bend knees second. It looks like you're bending your knees first, and leaning in second.
Think of a slalom water skier on a glassy lake. He doesn't bend his knees very much if at all, because he doesn't have to, the lake is smooth. Or think of the extremecarving guys, they never ride anything but hero snow, so they don't bend their knees as much, they just leeeeeeannn over! :p
Try this to overcome your habit. When you are better at keeping your butt over the topsheet of your board, you can bring the knees back into the equation some more to work the board and be more dynamic when you want.
-Jack
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I refuse to believe that someone mistook a normal alpine board for a Teleboard. Nope, that didn't happen.
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The widest points of the board are actually not part of the sidecut. If you put your board flat on the floor, and slide a piece of paper under the nose until it stops, you'll see that the widest point of the nose/tail is off the ground. This is a result of having to end the sidecut somewhere, somehow, while maintaining continuity of the curve of the board. Therefore, at the point the sidecut ends, the edges are still flaring out from center.
If the widest points of the board were on the ground, that would mean that the last few cm's of board on the ground are not part of the equation of the sidecut.
And 33 meters has got to be a goof.
-Jack
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Just kidding, couldn't resist the opportunity to quote Monty Python.
Not a skier but I don't think you have to be. 15m is the radius on my board and I love it. If you can demo them, I think you'd like them.
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Originally posted by Maciek
Jack, Nobody pushes some idea into obscurity on purpose without a reason.
Oh they had a reason alright - alpine was hurting their supposed cool, hip image, so they had to justify some way to dump it. They didn't have the sack to simply say "that's all folks" one day, they first had to try to make it look like the demand for their alpine gear was drying up on its own.
If you do not know what is behind then you know it is money (or you should assume it is money).
Jake did not change mentality. He simply is a human being and money talks. To many, principles come second, but on the other hand you can't cook principles to feed your family needs. [/b]
Are you telling me splitboards are more profitable and are a bigger segment of the market than alpine? I can't believe that. Why is Burton making splitboards and not alpine stuff? Image, pure and simple, in my opinion. They make plenty of money. They could keep doing alpine if they want.
But I've made peace with the fact that Burton is gone, and I've concluded that we don't really need them. What bugs me is that the way they went about getting out of alpine was not very classy. They sneaked and weaseled their way out. They didn't want to take ownership of the decision, or so it appeared.
But hey, if Klug Riding can turn things around and make it work for them, then great, that will only mean more carvers on the hill.
-Jack
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Originally posted by Grady
How or what did he/they do, Jack? I have heard a lot of how Burton tried to kill alpine or whatever, or make it
diminish, but never really heard a good explanation. Please inform this newbie. Thanks!
Speculation: major innovation and effort put into developing world class leading alpine products reached its peak in either 96 or 97.
Fact: In 2001, Burton moved all its alpine product out of the main catalog, and into a pocket sized side-show catalog, and into a segregated section of their website. It still had a pretty full selection of gear, including 3 lines of boards (Factory Prime, Ultra Prime, Coil), and more than one line of bindings and more than one line of boots. All the while, their marketing speak continued to say things like nobody is more dedicated to alpine than Burton.
Speculation: They were hoping to continue to cash in on hardbooters and/or squeeze some more money out of their existing tooling, while simultaneously helping people forget or never learn that alpine exists. Therefore, Burton could then justify cutting alpine loose. "Oh look, the market is suddenly even worse than it used to be." Yeah, thanks in large part to you, Burton. The Burton catalog was alpine's highest-profile mass marketing device. In 2001 it went poof and vanished. Subsequently, questions like "what is that?" and "is that a monoski?" seemed to increase on the hill. I don't think it was coincedence.
Fact: In 2002, Burton slashed it's alpine gear to one ambiguously purposed line of boards called the Speed, and one boot. I think they continued to offer one standard binding and one step-in. All the while, their alpine ad copy still read as if they were so committed to racing and making the best gear possible.
Speculation: It was then no secret that alpine was being shown the door at Burton, yet for some reason they were still hanging on by a thread. Why? Maybe hoping to cash in on the Olympics a little bit?
Fact: In 2003, no changes other than some lame blood-splatter graphics.
Speculation: I think no boots were being made, and they were selling leftover stock.
Fact: In 2004, No new alpine gear is available from Burton in North America or Europe. An even slimmer line of gear is available in Japan only. They let Chris Klug sell their leftover stock and factory seconds through klugriding.com. klugriding has since sold out of nearly everything.
Speculation: Will they take that as a wake up call that there still is a market? Or will they give Chris a pat on the back for clearing out some space in the warehouse? Nobody knows, but their direction and momentum doesn't favor the former possibility, imo.
The reason I think they wanted to get rid of alpine is their desperate attempts to maintain a cool, hip image, which alpine doesn't help. They're well aware of the stigma of being number one and being a "corporate giant", therefore anything remotely uncool is out the door. Burton could have easily continued making alpine products. They make plenty of money. Do I know what I'm talking about in that regard? No. But I find it very hard to believe that alpine was dragging down the ship. No way.
Why do I care? Because I grew up on Burton, and they always seemed to be a champion of alpine and racing. I always thought they'd be there for us.
But on the other hand, I realize now that they've shoved us out of the nest, that we can fly on our own.
-Jack
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It's a little hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure he is doing some nice cross-through. You're right that it's a little more over than under, but it's not totally cross-over. I also see nothing wrong with the speed. I actually think the trail is not steep enough to attempt much more edge angle, he'd probably lose too much momentum. But it is hard to tell steepness from a camera.
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only one thing to point out beyond what you and Randy have covered: the "hard" e-ring of the TD2's will give you the same rigid feel as the TD1s. But the medium e-ring seems to be the emerging favorite.
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You're just fishing for compliments. I've typed 3 nitpicks and erased them all because they're pointless and probably inaccurate. I'd have to see you in person to pick out any minor details. There's a <i>little</i> wobbliness here and there, but that's just practice. Nice carves.
-Jack
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Originally posted by utahcarver
Alta and Deer Valley are the other two, what area is the 4th one?
Mad River Glen, VT, and I hope it stays that way. It is not really an anti-snowboarding mountain, it is more of a "museum" of skiing's past. Snowboarding is simply not a part of that. Minimal snowmaking and grooming, narrow winding trails, no frills, no glitz, poseurs need not apply. Their slogan is "Ski it if you can." Also, their main lift to the summit is a diesel powered <i>single</i> chair.
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He didn't merely "dump" alpine, I think he, or probably his company, actively tried to push alpine into obscurity. just my opinion.
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"In the 1983 World Championships, the first held on the West Coast, Sims introduced the halfpipe competition, then proceeded to dominate it with help from the Sims team, which included Terry Kidwell.
Burton was not impressed. He was sure that the future of snowboarding would be alpine racing and backcountry.
Burton's prophecy did not pan out, and he reluctantly embraced the freestyle market."
this begs the question..... what the hell happened to Jake?!?
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Chris, have you been to the Welcome Center here?
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that is the same software as the BOL forum. The menu bar at the top of that page is external to the forum.
But it's not my call, I'm just guessing what Fin would say because he's out at the SES.
-Jack
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Originally posted by C5 Golfer
First it was not a work out for me -- it was a friggen body beating.
I can see what you are saying and maybe your corkscrew analogy is some of the problem with my past FC179 but also I can tell you when I got it I put the tail on the floor and nose in my left hand and push in the center as hard as I could and I said to myself " Holy Crap!" just like in Everybody Loves Raymond. I have never felt or seen a stiffer board in my life. We all have our own personal preferences and maybe I tend to lean - no pun intended- towards a more flexible board maybe than others. BTW- I found it humorous that the guy I sold it to rode it one day and sold it for the same reason.
Gotcha. Sounds like maybe a factory "oops"?
Cheers,
-Jack
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didn't realize I did the "white man's overbite" while carving! :rolleyes: