kieran Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 prepare to be irradiated. http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57358146-281/dhs-x-ray-scanners-could-be-cancer-risk-to-border-crossers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarve Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anything that powerful that can scan thru metal, is definitely going to rip right through living tissue. Hopefully the border agents will give people the option of exiting their vehicles before the scan begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Anything that powerful that can scan thru metal, is definitely going to rip right through living tissue. Hopefully the border agents will give people the option of exiting their vehicles before the scan begins. Those scanners don't scan the full length of the vehicle at once, so someone has to be behind the wheel. It's like driving through a waterfall vs. sitting parked in an automatic car wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarve Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Nice. So a virtually guaranteed nuking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 imagine the medical insurance amendments this will cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ok for US travelers, look at it as a free medical xray just hang your injured party up to the side of the vehicle and wait for the print out at the border guard kiosk. Much shorter waiting time than we presently have in Canadian hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C5 Golfer Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I just wonder the heck one can see in there that would be consider illegal. a gun could be seen but it is not illegal Wine/liquor can be seen but not illegal Powder in any form-- dont think you can see it. Drugs.. dont think it shows so just what can you xray in a car that you should not have? this is an AFWOTAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 In the 63 page document linked on CNET, (as far as I saw) none of these scanners are currently slated to be on our northern border. The "estimated locations" indicate that there will be two in CA, two in AZ, two in NM, and and nine in TX. I just wonder the heck one can see in there that would be consider illegal.a gun could be seen but it is not illegal Wine/liquor can be seen but not illegal Powder in any form-- dont think you can see it. Drugs.. dont think it shows so just what can you xray in a car that you should not have? this is an AFWOTAM Maybe they are looking at densities and not the image..With the car moving and the top down image, it's basically a three dimensional scan..Rutheford Backscatter Spectometry will tell you the density of something if you know the thickness of whatever you're shooting the alpha particles through..I dont' know if that's true when you're shooting them through the mishmash of materials in a car- I don't know how that works if they are going through a steel door and through explosives and back out a steel door again...I failed my second semester of AP Chem Edit and disclaimer: I most likely am talking completely out of my ass. I bombed the nuclear chemistry section on my final too. Literally the only thing I am certain of is that backscatter spectometry will tell you the density of something if you know the thickness..I do not know how applicable that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C5 Golfer Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Maybe they are looking at densities and not the image..With the car moving and the top down image, it's basically a three dimensional scan..Rutheford Backscatter Spectometry will tell you the density of something if you know the thickness of whatever you're shooting the alpha particles through..I dont' know if that's true when you're shooting them through the mishmash of materials in a car- I don't know how that works if they are going through a steel door and through explosives and back out a steel door again...I failed my second semester of AP Chem if thats the case then they need to go microwave.. like these guys do., http://www.emittech.com/hh.html http://www.emittech.com/bottle.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 if thats the case then they need to go microwave.. like these guys do.,http://www.emittech.com/hh.html http://www.emittech.com/bottle.html See my disclaimer I edited in after you quoted me.. hahaha I assume the drive through portal with energy levels that are (claimed to be) safe for humans is meant to speed the whole border crossing process. Is it safe to microwave yourself? I thought there was some less lethal technology that used microwaves and hurt like hell. I didn't look at the Z Scan site today, I'm saving that for the 6 hours I have to kill tomorrow at school. BUT..just briefly scanning that site (no pun intended) I gathered that the microwave technology is meant to detect anomalies in a body of consistent density. A car is full of random density changes. It would be funny to stuff your door panels full of hot pockets though.. EDIT: I spoke too soon..They have a microwave body scanner on the site that can apparently "be calibrated to higher standards so that anomalous head sweats and fevers could be detected, flagging an individual for closer scrutiny." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Too bad CANADA didn't have these scanners when shipping back military material from Afghanastan. We ended up getting shipping containers full of rocks and sand .I wonder what they got? Well what do you expect when you ship through Pakistan and India. Should have done the over the fence delivery from UPS. Have no fear the gov't always has our best interest in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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