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planning a stratton trip with friends in the next 3 weeks, maybe ill see you there.
If you can hop a train to bergen county, i could provide a ride to mountain creek where i have a season pass. usually on weekdays, weekends arent my bag at creek.
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Im in the market for a bright jacket with a yield sign that says "to me" under the sign.
Bombing is ok as long as you are in control and yield to people downhill. I you have to stop, then stop.
I know that i take up real estate and that it bothers people who take a straighter line. I make every attempt to wait for a clear slope so i can focus on my form. sometimes im waiting awhile.
Last week im merging onto a trail and come to a stop to wait for a family. well, these 10 kids are doing pizza 20' apart slow as hell down the middle of the trail, and 4 or 5 adults are skidding on both sides of a pretty wide trail. Then they all stop all over the trail so if i were to go i would have to weave in and out of them, and you know if they start downhill again, the kids wont look first. It's like playing minesweeper on hard.
These people just took up the whole trail without any worry for anyone not in the group. they were downhill, but its a good idea to be considerate and understand we all share the hill. You just need to be alert, the US will never be a carve happy ski area.
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straight liner... death bombers....welcome to southern carving.... I keep my head on a pivot
My def of a straight liner... race "tuck", poles up like antlers, jacket half unzipped and flapping... and no frikin chance of being able to make an evasive maneuver
oh man, so funny, absolutely true. Nothing to add to this.
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nice vid, if i remember correctly, the beginning when you are filming birds eye creates a choppy effect as the snow passes. I think that was how they filmed the music video for 1979. unintended fitting tribute.
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man that trail is like a highway compared to where i am.
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Stratton Competitive Snowboard Team run by Al Messler, trains Friday through Sunday, from Thanksgiving all the way to USASA nationals in April. We also train both Christmas and February holidays, 7 days a week.
Generally we have somewhere around 20 athletes, ranging from beginners to national champions. Gate training is done mornings, then in afternoons we generally train boardercross or slopestyle.
We currently have 6 kids in hardboots (all qualified for nationals) and couple of prospects for next year.
Find us on the Statton web site. Go to programs and then look for us under "snowboard competition team".
Thanks, and good luck to all at Copper!
How much are the alpine morning trainings? I dont see pricing
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Duct tape --- Hmmm... I think I have some adhesive backed Teflon tape -- I could try that.... dont ask me how they get the adhesive to stick to the teflon..
Love to come to Oregon and meet ... what dates are you guys thinkin ?
They blackmail it with pics of it's mom in the shower.
Wouldn't lubing your boots cause some slippage walking through the lodge? sounds like you'd have to apply it right before walking onto the snow and hope it wears off by the end of your day. am i wrong?
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Stay dry and keep skin covered. I sweat in my columbia jacket when its around 10 degrees, so a thermal is all i would need.
You can find thermal base layers like an under armour shirt on sale at discount stores. buy a cheapo face mask, wind burn will hurt on your first run. Be cautious by going into the lodge much more often. If you lose feeling in your face, it's time to take a break.
Cheap neck warmer or a scarf at the least. Stay covered, stay dry, be cautious. skin should not be exposed.
layer up when you have to watch the comp, standing still sucks. maybe take a few runs to warm up in between his runs. Extra layers...
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I rode my hot since i was about 14. after the edge refused to hold up it's end of the bargain, I started to look into new equipment. I had some choices, and a volkl on sale on bomber for little more than a lot of used boards seemed good to me. a custom board would have doubled the price, and I wouldn't justify that.
Next I grabbed some deeluxe boots as a end of season sale from bomber, and the next year the gf bought me td3's for xmas. Now i'm confident that in 10 years all i need is a lift ticket and i can grab my setup and carve safely and have a blast.
If you love carving and you can afford cutting edge, awesome, that's not something to be loathed. A sport with as small a base as we have, could use the monetary support for the manufacturers. Sucking on a million dollar setup is fine with me, ofcourse it's funny to watch. Being 10 min from nyc I'm used to watching the new yorkers show up in literally thousands of dollar ski outfits just to sit on their asses on the bunny slope and never ski again. But as long as you are improving yourself, why should you be laughed at?
Why would a ski bum have money? I don't know because they earned it, then spent it on their passion? Because if i had the financial resources I would allow time in the winter just for carving. We all love to carve here, we just have different budgets, some of our gear represents our budget, and for others it is no reflection of our means.
As a side note: Sitting with my father-in-law in his season ticket seats at the final game at the meadowlands, all of his season tix friends who have sat together in the same seats for 30 years didn't know how the new stadium would have them placed. Nobody knew if they would still be together or just thrown around.(Turns out they are in similar area and close, but not the same seats.) Anyway back to the point, for 30 years these two guys have sat together on the aisle and dressed like any blue collar guy. The one guy handed us his business card to keep in touch just in case, and he's the ceo of Simon&Schuster. This guys a millionaire a hundred times over, and you would never know it. He loves watching the Giants in nosebleed seats in a $80 jacket just like everyone else. He could have been in a suite or atleast closer to the field for what he makes in 10 minutes. Some people with money buy sports teams( Mark Cuban), others just sit in their seats like they have for 30 years and love every minute of it. You really can't judge someone.
Why would a liftee in the alps who loves to ride be online burning people with expensive gear. By your own logic you should be working, loving your family time, or riding 'til you're so tired you need to pass out before work the next day. Don't be hatin' the American dream.
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I don't believe anyone blames the employees for safety. except that the guy on the post may have done something without knowing, just as likely it was something else. the simple starting jerk and the alignment of that pole and a weird mix of tension points could have cause a bounce on the spot that derailed it. Who knows.
It's a natural fact of nature, when someone does the same procedure day in and out quality is hard to maintain. In every profession this is true.
I grew up living at a resort owned by one of the greediest money driven owners that ran the place into the ground. This is a well known fact. This coupled with the fact that all of the kids in my town at one point worked at the resort, and for a lot of them it scares you. Every employee i passed except the older people who were lifers, was someone i knew. As I myself said, I can't speak for employees I don't know. And this post was pretty unanimous about condemning the inaccurate news reports including mine regarding the fact that they stated the lift was assigned replacement, "But the resort wouldn't release when."
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As a correction to my story... when I say hauling, i meant to explain that we were having a great nonstop empty slope run. Ripping some really good carves non stop all the way down the mountain. I did not mean to say that i was bombing the trail at full speed, even though this is called bomberonline?
And in summary, the ski patrol in first aid did say they messed up, the trail wassn't ready to be opened yet, and wasn't safe. He admitted the resorts error, my friend got oxy's and a pocket full of free passes, and we continued riding for 3 more days. Absolutely love Sugarloaf.
My intent was to say that my only trip there started out with an error by the resort(admitted by ski patrol), and so reading this story with my own experience at the resort doesn't come off as a surprise at lack of judgement, as an initial sentiment. But ofcourse i don't know their day to day operations, or how great their staff very well could be.
And Jack has the right to tell anyone he wishes, as long as his story is true. IMHO It is the most unbiased report I have ever heard, and after watching his mom drop 30' off a chairlift! I have never met you, but I can tell you are a very cool headed, honest guy, Jack. Very respectable.
No defamation if it's true, you may want to be careful about the guy with the hammer, unless your mom saw him derail the cable. But a lone employee mishap would not damage a company's reputation beyond repair, and open up a trade libel case. The actual un-doctored photos would damage the reputation, if anything. And a gag order would be the first step, and if sugarloaf suffered large enough monetary losses, how would suing Jack achieve anything. Corporate trade libel in an insurance deal his an entirely different beast.
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Don't forget your chest!
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yea i stayed for the morning and let about 1230-1pm, as i was walking out there were just droves of people walking up the hill from the lot. I stuck to granite, no crowds, and amazing carving. 2 curious onlookers, one was on telemarks.
Thursday I have to be on site in the city all day. I'll keep in touch with you though. who knows mybe hunter will be out there this year.
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well then i guess we can't trust sugarloaf to keep the public safe, we should slander them til they go broke, then the fed can bail them out, since as far as maine mountains go, they are too big to fail. Then nothing bad would happen ever again. Just unionize the liftees to about $75 an hour and guarantee them year round employment, and we can never fire them, even if sugarloaf wastes away and has 10 skiers a year.
The report that kept bothering me on yahoo was the story about the lift being the first to be scheduled for replacement during a 10 year face lift. And here it comes..."But the resort would not release the date scheduled." Insinuating the resort had a faulty lift and was running it into the ground.
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Come on down and ride in NC... I always have a reasonable expectation to not have snow on a trail.....
I actually did ride a one lift mountain down there once. I couldn't figure how they had the money to stay open. But if i lived in NC i would take what i could get.
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How do you get to the bowls at Sugarloaf?
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My apologies, the "Snow fields"
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I wonder, if Jack was Liable for this account of his experience, would the guy who started the viral rumor about adam sandler being killed in a snowboard accident be entitled to the royalties that he created? Since everybody watches actors movies when they die, or just a paycheck for the publicity?
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East coast folks need to have trails posted groomed/ungroomed, and closed if they aren't groomed? I've been sort of toying with the idea of taking a trip out East just to see what it's like to ride there. Maybe not ... it sounds exceedingly dangerous.
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My rather terse advice to Jack still stands, and to everyone here: You are placing yourself at (probably minor) risk of prosecution for libel or slander by spreading secondhand information and/or firsthand opinions and impressions, and you may be complicating the situation. If you have solid, firsthand information that might be useful to the victims or to the authority having jurisdiction, or to the resort for that matter, contact them and relay what you know or observed. You may be asked to testify under oath and threat of perjury much later, so take notes on what you observed and remember. Save your photos safely.
There is potentially a LOT of money at stake, not to mention issues of personal and/or corporate criminal negligence. I'd feel really badly about reading posts by any of you from a courtroom next winter. I'd be happy to take a few runs on your behalf if you're tied up as a witness, but I'd rather read your posts from a resort somewhere.
I understand that emotions can run high when one's family and friends are endangered, and I am sympathetic to that impulse. However, the best advice in such circumstances may still be "Don't get mad - get even." Not the same thing as "Don't get mad - take revenge." , by the way.
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Who is spreading second hand info? Jack's mom fell in the chair!!! And He watched it!!! He is a witness. And he has pictures to back up what he is saying. The resort responded immediately, and from the pictures there were a lot of witness' to ask questions. Are you suggesting that when we see witness' on tv after a shooting they are at risk of slander? I hope to God I don't wind up in a country like that. For God's sake a magazine can accuse a celebrity of cheating on their spouse having kid's and being an alien!
And by the way slander would have to be false, malicious information, such as "that incompetent employee on the pole knocked off the cable." Then we find out that was not the case. Simply describing what you witnessed, is not slander.
And if it was I think cnn claiming the cable snapped then using Jack's photos from this site, would be taking a legal risk. The fact that cnn made a false claim was made clear to me by Jack's photo's.
But if you like living in a Statist gov't this link will make your blood boil. Wonder if the camera man will be liable?
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How do you get to the bowls at Sugarloaf?
He would only have a good case because a lack of personal responsibility is so acceptable now. You guys shouldn't have gone flying into a trail you were unfamiliar with. It is as simple as that. Sure, they could have marked it, but you should have known better as well. Read the skier code.
actually as i stated we were the only ones on the trail, as we came up to the intersection you could see enough to know no one was on the trail, and this was basically first tracks. They drove the groomer up the front "ramp" and had corduroy. and the back just curled into a slight overhang then dropped off. this was a hill of blown snow that was supposed to be evened out. The ski patrol even said that trail wasn't ready to be opened for that reason.
When you come down a trail you have a reasonable expectation to have snow on the trail. There were no slow down signs either.
And every mountain I have been too will mark trails, as having bald spots since we have short seasons and the trails literally melt away from under us until it's all gone. And also mark a trail as un-groomed so you know you may encounter dangerous situations not expected on a trail, or mark something called a black diamond(this was marked as a green slope which usually do not have unseen 10-15' drops), and also mogul runs are labeled.
This situation at any speed would not have been avoidable, if i was going 5 mph i would notice theres no backside and not be able to stop and simply fall 10 feet minimum.
Also as i said "If we were the type to sue..." because i wouldn't unless someone really did something ridiculous that would harm a lot of people. as an example my father in law was working on a brand new dryer that constantly clogged with lint inside the unit, the manufacturer required you remove the rear access panel, for the homeowner to clean it.
the edges of this 3'x3' were razor sharp and sliced his arm open. He sued the company and won. What did he sue for? That the company would soften the edges of the panel if it required customers to remove it. Not for his injury or trauma, but so that people wouldn't be slicing their hands trying to remove this panel. By the way this company continued having lint problems, as you may recall dryers were catching fire, and the production stopped. clearly not a well engineered machine.
I am Mr. Libertarian, but some people take advantage, and the law system is there to hold the egregious ones accountable to someone. If sugarloaf had knowledge of the lift being unsafe for "X" reason, and ignored it, then people became hurt because of their inaction, they are liable. At the least medical expenses(recurring and initial) and a refund of tickets as a start.
Now who knows something completely out of their control could have occurred. We will find out when the investigation is released, which is public information, after the completion of the investigation.
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Know your store policy foremost. If you ever did open them up to liability you would be on thin ice or gone.
Be known as the guy that always gets it done, but don't be a push over. Always be honest with your employees, and NEVER gossip with or about them. That will make them comfortable to be honest with you when they mess up, so you have the accurate info to handle a situation.
Remember you work at Dick's so there is no embarrassment in saying, "Let me check on this first." especially if it's the difference in replacing a $1000 setup because you were inexperienced on a random $100 tuneup. I take the Dr's oath here...Do no harm. Always act as if it was your own equipment. And when you do screw up admit it(ski not tuned up to the right angle, or forgotten) and tell the customer What your are able to do to make the situation right. say to them i want to make this right for you, this is what i'm able to do for you.
Make sure your employees have a sincere smile, there's nothing worse than an employee who looks like they hate their job. And if you strike up a friendly convo when you have time..where are you skiing how long? followed by a small compliment, you will find that people who could do their own work will keep coming over the years to give you the business.(It's all about relationships) Again some will try to get something for nothing, so know the situation, and don't be a pushover.
These are some basics of why people prefer small business' to corporations, most are only at dick's because it's convenient, and cheaper because of the economics of high volume stores. If you offer the small ski shop charm and knowledge(built over time) you will do great.
Best of Luck,
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You are a fool, I didnt say it involved Fin. The Less comments made here about this episode the better. Jack should consider closing this thread.
WOW, Freedom of Information much?
This is actually a great thread considering the news is reporting the situation completely wrong, and someone on the lift with cred. on bomber(Jack) informed us that the cable did not snap, but derailed and there was no noticeable wind.
Also since lift conditions, maintenance, and safety affect us all, this could benefit all bomberites.
If Jack was liable for something, yes he should not be speaking, as to risk incriminating himmself, that is not the situation. Sugarloaf reading a thread on bomber will not save them from liability on this one. Also, Jack has not been throwing ridiculous accusations around here, all he said is, i was there, my mom was there, she fell, here are pics. And once the investigation confirms the cause, such as someone bouncing the chair we should also post that. If Sugarloaf was not at fault it should be known, If they are we should talk about the findings, and how to spot dangers at our home resorts.
What if the guy with the hammer on the pole is common for resorts, and he did one thing that was dangerous, that wasn't known previously. Putting the facts out there would help other resorts avoid this, and I know a lot of resort employees who post here from around the east.
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first off, To Jack and family, thank God your alright. But I always thought the moment you bought a lift ticket/season pass it is the same as signing a liability waiver? maybe not in extreme cases such as this. When I went buddy jump sky diving, I signed a release that nobody gets to sue if the parachute doesn't open, etc. Should the resort be held responsible for an accident like this if it really is poor maintenance and such, absolutely...but it's going to be one hell of a legal battle.
Those waivers are meant to deter people from legal action mostly. You can never sign your rights away, and there is no contract that protects a company from negligence. If you are skydiving and a drunk pilot runs off the runway that contract doesn't mean jack. your parachute not opening is a constant risk associated with the sport, just as falling while skiing and breaking your arm, or skiing into a tree is an unavoidable possibility in skiing.
A resort must not let people on a lift without being extremely cautious each and everyday. Making this a daily inspection makes it mundane to the human employees who inspect day in and day out for years, and you hope that finances dont result in a resort looking the other way with dangerous situations.The resort did report holding this lift in the morning due to high winds of 50 mph or higher. and at any time you could have a gust blast through an otherwise calm moment. Sugarloaf often closes the bowls off for high winds.
Having jack's mother on a falling chair lets us know the truth. Did somebody bounce the chair and she didn't notice, did the wind lift and lighten several chairs? All it takes is the cable derailing from the lead wheel and it instantly comes off the whole assembly. Did some guy with a hammer knocking ice or something, move this first wheel by accident?
On a personal note, I Love sugarloaf, but i can't speak for the quality of it's employees. The last time i was there my buddy and I hit some moguls, took a rest then started ripping it up on our first run. near the bottom we had a choice of trails and headed for what looked like 15' rollers, and we were really cruising on this trail, we were alone, nobody around. turns out those rollers? were really mounds from blowing snow that they forgot to groom out before opening the trail, and did not mark the trail ungroomed. the whole trail was groomed right around the mounds. on the back side there was no snow, so we basically launched off these mounds at high speed, with no landing, my only saving grace was that i was on skis that day and could absorb the landing. My buddy on a board landed, rolled forward and shattered his arm. They suggested he go to the hospital which he did, and they refused to set his arm. they gave him the x-ray and said to see his Dr. when he returned home.
So he spent the rest of the week trip on oxy back at the house. Sugarloaf loaded him up with free lift tickets, because if were the type to sue, he would have a slam dunk case.
either there was a lapse from grooming the trail properly, and having a trail open that should have been closed, or atleast marking it ungroomed. So a lapse at Sugarloaf does not surprise me.
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you missed it mark, conditions were real nice today, not too soft, and not too many monster moguls. I was pretty much able to shred through everything. Lots of fun at creek today.
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How long was it posted on bomber before you turned to ebay?
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i can make wedensdays just let me know and we will meet up. any other day i would need some notice. You up for a carpool like old times? ill buy the spicey mustard.