dave i would love to do demo days, but there just aren't that many anymore atleast around here. nevermind demoing stuff that i actually want to ride. so i find the best prices i can and demo on my own dollar. It was great when i worked for a shop and then santa cruz. At that point i could ride whatever i wanted. Back to the topic i could and prob will rock the soft setup on powder days but that is it, i had too much fun with the hard boots on so much control and no pain. the muscles in my feet are not the prob as i am on a board almost all year long ( wakeboard ). it is just from the pressure of me making my bind too tight. I try to ride somewhat loose and I just can't do it. This could be because I used to ski and had really good equipment no slop and great control. I'm also sure if i could drop 15-20lbs that would help a lot too, whatever. i thank you guys for all your replies, Brad.