boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 hi all looking for some help with a boot update. been riding plates for 15 plus years and my last pair of flexon comp 9.9s has finally given up (yes i know ski boots) my question is are any snowboard hardboots avilable now (indy head upz) even close to the same feel as my trusty green monsters thanx for the help mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skwalleur Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Strangely enough, I haven't ridden any green monsters to compare with... There is however plenty of good advice in the review sections and in loads of posts. I've got a pair of comfy Head Cirrus (27 mondo) for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 and the raichle stuff does share a similar feel just much much softer and they also come with a thermoflex liner that is pretty much the same as came with some of the flexons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 i guess my main concern is that anything i get is gonna feel like mush compared to the flexons. i havn't used actual snowboard hardboots since like 92 or before and at the time i was told that they were holding me back( too soft for the then agressive stance i was riding) also im not exactly a small guy (6ft3 250lbs) im also not mr hardcore racer anymore however i still ride quite a bit different than the average joe on the local ski hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 for our weight, I would suggest the the Raichle AF 700/indy or the burton fire both are plenty stiff and if you get the indy if its not stiff enough you could buy the race tongues, but I must say that I have been going softer and softer with my boots in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 thanx i was thinking the indys but the heads seemed to get better reviews although not as stiff. have you seen or used the upz boots? i found them in canada for 399 but cant seem to find a review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I have 'em. I like them a lot but there are some mods that I highly recommend to them. I think I'm going to put the info on my web site soon for those that are interested. One thing that you should really do is add tee nuts/hex cap screws & washers to the toe pieces so that they are held on better. The other thing is the liners are terriable. I would put in Thermoflex/Intution liners right out of the box. Use the factory liners for slippers! Once you do these mods I think they are the best boots on the market. The buckles are nice for adjustability and comfort and the forward lean adjuster/spring is pretty good since there is spring on both toe and heel side. Another nice addition is a booster strap. I like the standard one for a little more flex. Others have said that they get real stiff in the cold and there is has been talk that the cuff cant breaks through the plastic. But aparently that problem has been fixed in the newest ones. I haven't noticed either problem and I rode in some pretty cold conditions last winter in them. But I'm ~200lbs so they flex pretty well for me. Also, I have never touched the cuff cant. I ride them with Intec heels but I don't really like the original heels. If I were using standard bindings I would get the new Bomber eurathane heels or some of the older Burton heels that are much harder. Even some of the older Raichle heels are much better. The newest Raichle heels are way too susceptible to wear. ->Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 they are good after the mentioned mods but prior to them I don't like them and they don't fit some bindings such as the TD1 SI thats why I did not mention them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 thanx guys i think ive narrowed it down to head or upz . im not super concerned about fitting tds cuz i still have a bunch of burton race plates w/metal discs as far as liners go im used to the torture chambers that came w/my original flexons 10years ago (i bought 3 pairs) so i think anything would be better i figured id avoid indys cuz the straps look cheesy and i read that for a so called race boot the cuff is too low and no power strap. my flexons are tall narrow and painful but back in the day there was no snowboard boot that could compare sorry if im a little dated i guess i need to graduate from the old school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 I read they were bringing back the flexon this year. So that may still be an option. I like Head and UPZ. You can see my posts on the subject in other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marz Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 If you want to visit the updated school you may want to checkout the new Dalbello Krypton. I just tried a pair on locally last week. They took the old Flexons & modernized em, much more comfy too! Flexons were one of the few boots that just did not fit my feet , they were the best back when us Dinos roamed the Cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 thanx i heard about the dalbellos i just wonder if its the same deal as when kneisel bought the mold a few years back . i got a pair of those w/ thermoflex liners and they hurt more than my orginals thats why i was thinking either heads or upz instead i guess i just got fatter or at least my feet did!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 and they are slightly softer the UPZ boots have a stiffer tongue than both the other two boots mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardman73 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 none of my plates are intec so i guess the fit problem wouldnt matter right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 There's no more problem with UPZ fitting bindings that I know of (unless maybe if you have an old pair of bomber TD1s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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