Guest rtrayz Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 which one would you get? i have an opportunity to purchase either one of these and i'm torn at which one to pick. i am looking for the best all-round board that will turn quick and hold up at long speed carves. my specs are 5'9" 180lbs. thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffh Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I've owned both boards. The Ultra Prime is a good all rounder, fairly damp, easy to ride, and decent at speed. The Ballistic is a very lively ride with a fairly tight radius, tighter then the Burton I believe. My Ballistic used to toss me once in a while before I realized what was happening; if I was too sudden when changing edges the board would literally act like a spring and just toss me. After the third or fourth time I figured it out and learned to be smoother during transitions. I think both boards are fine - just different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChR1s Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I'm 6', 180+ lb, and have an UP169. At first I thought the board was neato. It turned effortlessly and held a line okay, was forgiving at moderate speed, and the base was way fast. Once I started railing turns harder and was messing around with my riding technique, I found the board to be sketchy at speed, and overly eager to turn with only modest input. I then favored a stiffer board. However, I do prefer the UP169 for moderate, softer conditions. And it's easier to thread through crowds than my FP173. I think of it as a carviing board I can relax on, but don't want to count on at high speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Todd Stewart Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 stay away from ultra primes, especially the yellow and red ones; that was a bad year. I know too many people that have broken that board including myself. When I was 15 I split the core of my 168 ultra prime laterlerly (tip to tail). The board is made for someone that weights 200+, at the time I only weighted in at 120. I think that pretty much sums up how i feel about burton boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rtrayz Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 i get the impression that you guys don't like burton boards. what do you recommend then? on a limited budget mind you. thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChR1s Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I like my Burton boards just fine. And you can find them for short money. I've yet to break any board during the past 15 seasons, but know of plenty broken boards, Burton among others. Bode Miller broke one of his skis a couple weekends ago. Does that mean his skis suck? I'll say the UP is a nice, quality board for getting a grip on carving. I can't offer any input about the Elan deal, but either of those two boards may feel a bit lengthy if either is to be your first alpine board, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rtrayz Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 i have been riding an older rossi 159 for about 4 years now and feel like moving up a bit. i would consider myself near advanced level and need something better at speeds, but still will take tight turns at slower speeds. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffh Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 boys like Doneks in all shapes and sizes. My UP was good to learn on but is now my rock board and my Ballistic was sold after demoing a Donek FC. You can't go wrong with a Donek Freecarve or any other version. I'm sure the Coilers are the same but I have not had the opp to ride one yet to give an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 I have a Rossi world cup 170 I will sell you for $200. Used only 1 season by me buggs@evilsports.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AustrianCarver Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 I bet you will be happy with the Elan Ballistic. Great edge hold and very fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Todd Stewart Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 my buddy has an elan and i'll ask him tommorow how it rides, i just can't trust burton boards since i know too many people who have broken them. I do hear the new burton speed is a good board though, but it will probally be out of your price range. I you're looking for an afforable board, lots of snowboard shops will have the odd alpine board lying around. Just make a low ball offer, who knows you may get luckey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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