Dave Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 My old set catek freeride, malamute boots, a too long board for my weight. It’s a stiff setup for sure. I need new gear old is shot . I really like the rise off the board the free rides have. I only carve never switch, so I’m considering hardboots. My big question is can I mount them on an all mountain board in a traditional soft boot stance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 I ran hard boots on an AM softboot board for a season or two before I started going narrower. Angles were 45/30 if I remember right. It worked fine, but I feel like everything got better as I went to progressively skinnier boards and higher angles. I had only ever seen people use hard boots for racing, and I only wanted to ride jumps and moguls, so I figured I'd go narrower until I started losing versatility. Waist width went from 25cm, 23cm, 21cm, 19cm, and it just felt better each time. Then I tried 17cm and found that was too narrow. Been riding 19cm waist boards ever since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Lots of people ride stiff softboots like the Malamute for freeriding. Not sure what you mean by "traditional soft boot stance". Do you mean duck? If you never ride switch and you have stiff boots and bindings, I would opt for a forward stance. I run +27f, +12r and am happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 ^agree. Even though I'm riding hardboots most of the time in the past few years, im freeriding in softboots and got no issues with that. Steep angles (45/30 ) on swallowtail, or something freeride-ish (24/-3) for challenging terrain. Tried hardboots on regular board - meh. Doable on narrow boards, but still. I need 22-23cm for my 285mm boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Haven't run hard boots on a freeride board for a while but when I did it was with lower angles and soft bindings. My Tanker had Raichle Intec RS up with 40f, 35r. My old Asym Air had Burton Race Plates at 36f, 30r. Raichle 224 for boots, also soft. Not sure I'd want to ride a super-stiff hardboot setup at those angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) all mt boards are all I do Edited March 25, 2022 by b0ardski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTD Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Jumping in. Lost my mind for riding two seasons ago. Went all in on hard boots and now no looking back. Switched everything. And now building redundancies. found this forum in one of many late-night sessions where I seek out like-minded folks. I love this Niche. Thrilled to find this community. I didn’t have a name. It really is all mountain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 11:20 AM, Dave said: My old set catek freeride, malamute boots, a too long board for my weight. It’s a stiff setup for sure. I need new gear old is shot . I really like the rise off the board the free rides have. I only carve never switch, so I’m considering hardboots. My big question is can I mount them on an all mountain board in a traditional soft boot stance? Yes, but softer plates bindings are better and soft hard boots. 1 hour ago, GTD said: Jumping in. Lost my mind for riding two seasons ago. Went all in on hard boots and now no looking back. Switched everything. And now building redundancies. found this forum in one of many late-night sessions where I seek out like-minded folks. I love this Niche. Thrilled to find this community. I didn’t have a name. It really is all mountain. Welcome home, brother! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarcode Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) I took @BlueB's advice and threw my soft plates on a freeride board and had a ton of fun. Duck stance requires a fairly soft boot though, and a forward stance feels a lot more natural for carving. I ride my wide board (26.6cm waist, ~31cm tail/nose) at +45/+25, with some rear inward cant and heel lift. It's a surprisingly versatile setup. Edited March 28, 2022 by Jarcode really wide -> wide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hard-on-Soft. UPZ 12 RC12's boots size 27.0 + F2 Titanflex M set @ +20F / +2R Coiler BXFR 25.25 waist Went to alpine Narrower versions as step-ins are much easier to deal with on short hills. Coiler Narrow BXFR 24.25 waist Contra Narrow BXFR 24.0 waist Thirst CC+ 24.3 waist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyzerbomber Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 YUP AND YUP, hard on soft is now a thing more than ever. Go hard, stay hard. ha! Custom set of Donek Hazelwoods 173 @ Max width for no, or little drag and seamless swap between lift-served and row-your-own turns!! 20/12 for angles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) I was riding a 168 Coiler BXFR (26 waist) today with my S5s on F2s at 40/30. It felt so right. It felt like my surfing. Like a revelation. Edited December 27, 2022 by lonbordin seriously... I really do not want to ride any other way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 I think I'm on 30/40 which works really well - screen grabs from today below. Atomic Backland Carbons/ Phantom springs/ F2/ 148 Hometown Hero. Heard in the helicopter line: "hey, us skiers are used to waiting for the snowboarder, not the other way around". I'm happy with that. A softbooter who initially raised eyebrows at my set up confessed that he'd no idea hard boots could work like this in powder once he saw how it's done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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