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My old set catek freeride, malamute boots, a too long board for my weight. It’s a stiff setup for sure. I need new gear old is shot . I really like the rise off the board the free rides have. I only carve never switch, so I’m considering hardboots. My big question is can I mount them on an all mountain board in a traditional soft boot stance?

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I ran hard boots on an AM softboot board for a season or two before I started going narrower. Angles were 45/30 if I remember right. It worked fine, but I feel like everything got better as I went to progressively skinnier boards and higher angles.

I had only ever seen people use hard boots for racing, and I only wanted to ride jumps and moguls, so I figured I'd go narrower until I started losing versatility. Waist width went from 25cm, 23cm, 21cm, 19cm, and it just felt better each time. Then I tried 17cm and found that was too narrow. Been riding 19cm waist boards ever since.

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Lots of people ride stiff softboots like the Malamute for freeriding.  Not sure what you mean by "traditional soft boot stance".  Do you mean duck?  If you never ride switch and you have stiff boots and bindings, I would opt for a forward stance.  I run +27f, +12r and am happy with it.

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^agree. Even though I'm riding hardboots most of the time in the past few years, im freeriding in softboots and got no issues with that. Steep angles (45/30 ) on swallowtail, or something freeride-ish (24/-3) for challenging terrain. 

Tried hardboots on regular board - meh. Doable on narrow boards, but still. I need 22-23cm for my 285mm boots

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Haven't run hard boots on a freeride board for a while but when I did it was with lower angles and soft bindings.  My Tanker had Raichle Intec RS up with 40f, 35r.  My old Asym Air had Burton Race Plates at 36f, 30r.  Raichle 224 for boots, also soft.

Not sure I'd want to ride a super-stiff hardboot setup at those angles.

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Jumping in. Lost my mind for riding two seasons ago. Went all in on hard boots and now no looking back. Switched everything. And now building redundancies.

 

found this forum in one of many late-night sessions where I seek out like-minded folks. I love this Niche. Thrilled to find this community.

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I didn’t have a name. It really is all mountain.

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On 3/24/2022 at 11:20 AM, Dave said:

My old set catek freeride, malamute boots, a too long board for my weight. It’s a stiff setup for sure. I need new gear old is shot . I really like the rise off the board the free rides have. I only carve never switch, so I’m considering hardboots. My big question is can I mount them on an all mountain board in a traditional soft boot stance?

Yes, but softer plates bindings are better and soft hard boots. 

1 hour ago, GTD said:

Jumping in. Lost my mind for riding two seasons ago. Went all in on hard boots and now no looking back. Switched everything. And now building redundancies.

 

found this forum in one of many late-night sessions where I seek out like-minded folks. I love this Niche. Thrilled to find this community.

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064F3786-D7C8-45EF-94D0-8744AAE81863.jpeg

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I didn’t have a name. It really is all mountain.

Welcome home, brother! 

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I took @BlueB's advice and threw my soft plates on a freeride board and had a ton of fun. Duck stance requires a fairly soft boot though, and a forward stance feels a lot more natural for carving. I ride my wide board (26.6cm waist, ~31cm tail/nose) at +45/+25, with some rear inward cant and heel lift. It's a surprisingly versatile setup.

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Hard-on-Soft.

UPZ 12 RC12's boots size 27.0 + F2 Titanflex M set @ +20F / +2R

Coiler BXFR 25.25 waist

Went to alpine Narrower versions as step-ins are much easier to deal with on short hills.

Coiler Narrow BXFR 24.25 waist

Contra Narrow BXFR 24.0 waist

Thirst CC+ 24.3 waist

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YUP AND YUP, hard on soft is now a thing more than ever. Go hard, stay hard. ha!

Custom set of Donek Hazelwoods 173 @ Max width for no, or little drag and seamless swap between lift-served and row-your-own turns!! 20/12 for angles.

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