Alexey Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 195 for alpine bindings who have big experience ride like for test it ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Me and @b.free got similar U198 with cross. This looks pretty close. I don't have any big mountains close by, but will go to Michigan UP this March. Andrew might help, although it's not much snow in CO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted February 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 U198 along line stop at 195 digit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Alexey, I'd enjoy taking this to Whistler. I can ship it to the next rider afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Excited to see a new Undertaker. That was a great board in Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted February 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BlueB said: Alexey, I'd enjoy taking this to Whistler. I can ship it to the next rider afterwards. deal! review from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alexey said: deal! review from you Awesome! My address has changed. I'll email you the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted February 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, BlueB said: Awesome! My address has changed. I'll email you the new one. we need appx week or maybe a little more for stiffness proper selection work at prototypes.... the photo is 1st one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 Send one to Colorado as well, I ride only HB with any board. Have U198, U185 and Dupraz 6++ for cross reference as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, b.free said: Send one to Colorado as well, I ride only HB with any board. Have U198, U185 and Dupraz 6++ for cross reference as well. We have bunch of us in CO that rides HB in powder (me being one of them) and I’d love to try it after @b.free 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 I'm 1.95m and 111kg and I can guarantee the worst snow conditions to test one here in exotic southern Indiana. Think of it as a torture test. Hurry though... the snow maybe soon gone. Of course, I'd ship it to the next person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkaholic Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 15 hours ago, yamifumi said: We have bunch of us in CO that rides HB in powder (me being one of them) and I’d love to try it after @b.free At Lovey we have @big mario, @ice and myself who all ride HB in powder. ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted February 18, 2022 Report Share Posted February 18, 2022 23 hours ago, yamifumi said: We have bunch of us in CO that rides HB in powder (me being one of them) and I’d love to try it after @b.free I'll come join you then 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted March 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 work under proper stiffness a one have ideal but need reduce weight at least at 800 gr. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alexey Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 We has sent 2 prototypes to USA FedEX 271393418691 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Alexey said: We has sent 2 prototypes to USA FedEX 271393418691 I hope one makes it here, when they are done testing in US... Edited March 29, 2022 by BlueB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Two boards are in CO and ready to test. Great quality. First impression, they are stiff and camberred. Very solid and similar to original in shape. Cant wait on riding them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 7:12 PM, b.free said: Two boards are in CO and ready to test. Great quality. First impression, they are stiff and camberred. Very solid and similar to original in shape. Cant wait on riding them. If those are available to try, I'd love to hop on one. I loved my Undertaker back when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 3:57 PM, Mr.E said: If those are available to try, I'd love to hop on one. I loved my Undertaker back when. Hey, I am testing both prototypes this weekend, but next one you are welcomed to try em. Your feedback will be needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) I took the stiffer one out today- V2 I think from the marking. I really enjoyed it. Nice and quiet nose, it held an edge well, and I enjoyed the overall flex. A couple of constructive notes if it were up to me: 1. Its a pretty heavy board- I might thin the core and make up the stiffness with composites. 2.There is a bit of a step feeling between the effective edge, then when you tilt it further the nose contact engaging. I might tweak this with increasing the effective edge a touch, possibly. The other camber profiles might also address this. In general I liked how relatively quite it was transitioning from powder to chunder to groom. The general flex was pretty good for me, though I can imagine softer would also be good for a wider range or riders (I'm 217lbs). Torsional stiffness was much higher than my old 185 Undertaker, and I liked that with hardboots in soft stuff and on groom. Edited April 25, 2022 by Mr.E 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Condition: Wide variety of snow condition from soft snow to slush Location: Arapahoe Basin Board: Softer version of U195 Set up: MS 951 w/ SG bindings I was able to try the board out this past weekend and I enjoyed it quite a lot. Although the condition weren't powder day, I believe this board can rip on those days. The waist width was just about right, not too narrow nor too wide. It is quite hard to find board that can right comfortably with hardboots set up so It is quite awesome to have this board, especially able to have stance width of 46cm (normally I ride 48cm stance width on normal alpine board) which allows for comfortable stance at lower angle. For me, this is a huge plus as I don't have long leg like some people. I was able to carve without worrying too much about buckling the nose and/or flexing the board with hardboot set up. Although the length is 195cm, it was surprisingly easy to maneuver through narrow runs at the lower mountain (half of the run is closed due to lack of snow). It would be difficult to say what I would change but trying out slightly softer nose would be interesting especially in powder days. Overall it was great board and definitely want to have in my quiver: the powder board that can also carve on the groomers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted October 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Please add serial numbers ! You have some visual same boards for test ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Mr.E used 4872 (the stiffer one) for testing yamifumi used 4874 (the softer one) for testing Edited November 1, 2022 by b.free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) As for my reviews, i can say that both boards are build in excellent and almost identical shape comparing to the original, some minor differences in construction and dampening, although my original is 20+ years old, so its hard to compare in exact way. 4872 is a harder prototype which is obviously stiffer build and heavier, testing were in very hard spring pack, no freshies unfortunately by that time. Boots were UPZ AT8, which is my softer setup for powdays. Yamifumi said its crazy to use this pow board in such conditions, ohh well, I wanted to try it anyway. I am 6.5, 225lbs and the board felt very good for my weight. On the groomed trails, U195 felt more of GS board with wider turns vs the Undertaker as more of freecarving board with shorter turns, not sure if its good or bad, more of a preferred way of riding. The nose felt amazing, no rattling at all, just amazing stable ride, great hold on any speed. Same with the tail, I was so surprised by it, very jumpy, lots of feedback, very “alive” tail. I was not scared to press it, amazing since its a swallowtail. Midsection of the board is probably too stiff torsionally, which would be hard to maneuver in the trees, well no trees riding yet, however its not an issue on the hardpack. I had to adjust my technique and get used to the board to feel and ride it comfortably. Overall with only one day of riding on it, I would say its more of a carver than powboard, way better on hardpack than Undertaker, great grip to ride anywhere on trails, will see how it will ride in deep snow and trees. Short video: Edited November 1, 2022 by b.free 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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