TLN Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, neanderthal said: Furburg is a interesting ride. Might love or hate it but it is not like a regular board. Overall it has less float than the Prior and is a bitch to fight through trees or in a tight space. This is a dream if you have a wide open bowl of powder and you want to rip straightlines but the dream turns to nightmare if you need to fight some tight turn like a few moguls or a clutch move. Im trying to think of any reason to take furberg over swallowtail in "wide open bowl". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neanderthal Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 If you want to straightline and rip a run like the Freeride snowboard contests you might like the Furberg. It is stable at high speed and will do better if the snow is inconsistent. If you like to turn, turn, turn never slip - big powder 8s and there are trees involved I would pick something else. Not sold on the swallowtail only in that it can get hooked up and there are some great designs with enough taper, width, setback and short tails that also solve the same problem set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Hm.. Mind you asking if you tried swallowtail before? Long one with big cut out and long nose? (Not like Johnes Storm chaser or such). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neanderthal Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Tried a few but all are more similar to the stormchaser. I have not ridden a winterstick or prior which is probably what your are asking. I really want a winterstick especially as it has such a rich history and looks amazing but is probably hard to manage other than j a deep powder day. There are a few reviews from heliski operations saying every time someone brings one they end up on a more regular shop board after a day. Really not sure what to make of that and would love to hear from someone on this forum with experience. I have two reverse sidecut boards ready to go next 3 foot dump. One from Corran and another by Fawcett but can't give a review of these yet. https://www.utahskigear.com/products/soul-waterman-snow-wave-powder-surf-snowboard-2020?variant=39518419714206¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiAv_KMBhAzEiwAs-rX1A_8ar16RO01Np6l9P5Xq8oqp6G0jgBFNVV9ctUMslGM-Srbqyg94hoCeuYQAvD_BwE by https://mountainculturegroup.com/snowboard-legend-mark-fawcett-launches-new-board-company/ The other board I really want to try and would love to hear about is the 420 powderhull.(https://www.yesnowboard.com/snowboards/321-22-420-ph.html#/4-size-154) It's s neat concept but all the reviews are from jibbers not carver Edited November 24, 2021 by neanderthal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 or you could go over to @b0ardski's blowout garage sale and get one of his cigar shaped pow boards and do this to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 BTW,@BLOODTYPEZX10R makes one of the best powder carvers I've ever ridden, though it is more on the the exotic end than what you're looking for. This is a pcjv 169 with an effective edge 151cm and scr of very turny. An effortless ride in powder. This one not for sale though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 9 hours ago, bigwavedave said: or you could go over to @b0ardski's blowout garage sale and get one of his cigar shaped pow boards and do this to it... the eldo would be good for that as the edges don't wrap around the tips I have a 166 gnu that's a great option for diy swally also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 7:05 PM, TLN said: Im trying to think of any reason to take furberg over swallowtail in "wide open bowl". Not sure why any of these are suggested when he is asking for “agile and darty”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Norman Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 I have an older cambered Lib Tech SnowMullet that I love playing in soft snow with. Its excellent in NH tight trails and trees and our usually heavy powder. I'm 200lbs and ride the 165. I wish i had gone with the 172. I did not find the TB172 or the Osinn 4800 darty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 10:42 PM, bigwavedave said: or you could go over to @b0ardski's blowout garage sale and get one of his cigar shaped pow boards and do this to it... Good advice, Dave. I did get a deal done with b0ardski. won't be a need to cut it, though. thanks for the responses, All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 take a look at the SG 162 that is listed for sale. Looks like its right what you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, LambertoMI said: take a look at the SG 162 that is listed for sale. Looks like its right what you are looking for arneburner's ? i was thinking about it but my concern is the stiffness - not too stiff ? i am probably not going to be in hard boots. stiff soft boots and NX2-GT bindings, but not hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 He said it was built for 170+. He has pictures and details. chips and nicks but been repaired. I never rode an SG but see the comments in his posting. Its from charlie chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, LambertoMI said: take a look at the SG 162 that is listed for sale. Looks like its right what you are looking for For powder? No way would a 162 slalom board be the optimal tool for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Might be right Corey. I may have misread the initial post. Thought he was looking for a small spaces tight board not just a powder tool. I have used small slalom boards in trees and powder with plates, but it is more challenging. I would have used the SG for an all purpose tool that could carve and go in trees/etc. But you are right, it is more challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Corey said: For powder? No way would a 162 slalom board be the optimal tool for that. ha ha ! when I saw the pic, i got a good laugh. it's especially funny because I am getting a few powder boards together for a cat trip in January with a group of friends who always expect me to show up with a bag full of race boards. the first time i ever hung out with this particular group was in Park City and I ended up hiking to the top of Jupiter peak in hard boots and an old race stock Burton FP 185 (RIP). arneburner has an SG for sale that is actually a fairly good candidate for my needs. i bought b0ardski's Osin 168. the Osin is not short or darty, but it is shorter and dartier than my Tankers, for sure. still looking for one other, shorter, more nimble board Edited December 4, 2021 by davekempmeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, davekempmeister said: i bought b0ardski's Osin 168. the Osin is not short or darty, But it looks like a dart! I think you'll find it nimble. Will ride shorter than the length suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 22 hours ago, BlueB said: But it looks like a dart! I think you'll find it nimble. Will ride shorter than the length suggests. my thoughts exactly, BlueB. not too worried because i know it's not a stiff board, i have the 3800 in the same length and am familiar with the feel (and i like it). the nose on the 4807 looks like it has a little more float than the 3800 and the tail on the 4807 looks like what i want behind my back foot on steeps/in bottomless/at speed. my hunch is that the 4807 looks like what i want when i want to frequently modulate speed in pow. i pretty much always ride Tankers in pow, 187 - 200. comparatively, and given my size, the 4807 seems short and nimble looking enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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