slapos Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) hi all, seems that UPZ has done an interesting development on their boots - notice the tongue fixiation point finally being at front toe area of the shell, instead of being fixed at a side of the shell. Also notice that the fixation teeth are no longer a part of the tongue, meaning that the tongue can move a little without interference from fixed points. Your thoughts? Edited October 29, 2021 by slapos new pix 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 It's been this way since the RC10. You can also buy an ankle strap and modify older boots to work this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 I like how easy it is to put them on now that the tongue can swing out of the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Jack, look at the toe area and notce that fastener. Looks like a redesign, with the tounge no longer pinned inside the big toe area. I think it looks good. I think I like the 4 buckles even more than the new tounge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Looks harder to pivot the tongue out of the way... 4 minutes ago, Mr.E said: I think I like the 4 buckles even more than the new tounge. 100% this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 New design might keep better snow out of boot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Jack M said: It's been this way since the RC10. You can also buy an ankle strap and modify older boots to work this way. Only ankle strap was there for for rc10. Notice that now both of the lower buckles fasten on straps, instead of being attached to a tongue. Its a little revolution to upz boots I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Definitely liking the 4 buckles. Much cleaner. I wish the 2nd strap from the toe was more towards the ankle joint if the foot but I guess that is not possible without whole redesign of pivot point on the boot to be higher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 @yamifumiThere have to have been new shell moulds made to accommodate the design changes seen in the photos. I suspect UPZ don't see changing the direction of pull of the strap that comes in front of the ankle as important. My preference is for the direction that Northwave/Mountainslope use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 upzboots.com still shows 5 buckles on all the 2022 boots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Oh I see! The pics in the OP weren’t there when I first read it, so I went to UPZboots.com and didn’t see what you were talking about. Cool! But the tongue could swing all the way out of the way on the RC10 too, just via the single side joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 This is 2022 RCR - upz Japan premiered them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-B5ca9hKoo&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 So the XC and RC remain a 5 buckle design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 10:50 PM, SunSurfer said: @yamifumiThere have to have been new shell moulds made to accommodate the design changes seen in the photos. I suspect UPZ don't see changing the direction of pull of the strap that comes in front of the ankle as important. My preference is for the direction that Northwave/Mountainslope use. Could be that they used the AT8 lower mould, buckle position seems identical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 UPZ Japan Facebook is recommended. https://www.facebook.com/upzboots.japan/ Here is the RC12 in the 5 buckle fashion which appears to be somewhat unchanged. Here is a Facebook Translated blurb about the new RCR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I loved the RC 8 back in the day.. I welcome the come back.. The extra buckle over the foot seemed over kill and always crushed my foot.. OK then loosen them you say... OK again then what's the point of extra.. Being able to wiggle my toes to keep circulation was always a bonus, boots always have had a great heel pocket. I liked the rc8 as it held my ankle in place better.. Will see. I hope they have options on tounge stiffness.. I will look to snag a pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, *Ace* said: UPZ Japan Facebook is recommended "Ace is the place for the helpful hardboot man" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Shred Gruumer said: I loved the RC 8 back in the day.. I welcome the come back.. I'm confoosed - wasn't the RC8 the super soft free-riding one? The shell was translucent. I thought the RCR was their stiffest option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neil Gendzwill said: thought the RCR was their stiffest option. Maybe but the 8 was the 4 buckle which I liked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shred Gruumer said: Maybe but the 8 was the 4 buckle which I liked Yes, everybody I know who runs the UPZs complains about the extra buckle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 So, this seems like a little bit of a marriage from the way the UPZs were and the way the DeeLuxe do theirs... UPZs have superior heel hold and the DeeLuxe are much easier to get in and out of... Maybe a bit of the best of both worlds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 New pic that clarifies the position of the buckles in the new rcr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Is it only 4 in smaller sizes or what is the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted November 7, 2021 Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 This picture also shows the minimum shell size and the maximum shell size range of UPZ boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted November 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2021 Some of you have been wondering if the tongue swings away : yes it does Also it seems that the area circled in blue has changed shape somewhat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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