Shred Gruumer Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Well... Dreamy... Smooth... Predictable When others try to copy it .. It's gotta be a good board I'm now a believer.. I love how people ask about what weight it's made for... Dude just ride it!! Stop the who it's made for nonsense. It's made for you! 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 howdy so I need to double up on my meals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kirk Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 I also have a K168 and it is the real deal. I love it. dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, David Kirk said: I also have a K168 and it is the real deal Ditto! And Even Better, If That's Possible.... With A Plate!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I heard this board is supposed to be good. Might have to try one one day....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechocolate Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 20 hours ago, daveo said: I heard this board is supposed to be good. Might have to try one one day....... Nope, they're terrible. Just as bad as those Oxess ones which you really should just put up on the classifieds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, charliechocolate said: Nope, they're terrible. Just as bad as those Oxess ones which you really should just put up on the classifieds. Damn. Yeah, you're right, I gotta get rid of those terrible boards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 hours ago, charliechocolate said: Nope, they're terrible. Just as bad as those Oxess ones which you really should just put up on the classifieds. Absolutely terrible! I can save you from yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kirk Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 I put a long day in today on mine today and the carving was as good as it gets. I've always ridden longer boards (180-195) and thought that going "so short" with a 168 would be an issue seeing as I'm 6'4" tall. I expressed this reservation when I talked with Hans and he told me in essence that it would be fine and not to worry about it. I'm in the custom bike biz and one of the tough things to deal with is a customer who feels that they know better even though I've been building frames for people for over 30 years....so I took my own advice and listened to the expert and went with the 168 and I couldn't be happier. I took Hans' advice and it paid off. The board never feels short to me and it has a surprisingly wide speed range where it's happy....it will make both tight round turns and high speed GS turns and leave you smiling. You can't go wrong with a K168. dave 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted March 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) It gets even better when you drink their beer... Who knew... www.ebay.com/itm/WHITEFISH-MONTANA-BIG-MOUNTAIN-SKI-RESORT-Beer-40th-ANNIVERSARY-PRISTINE-KESSLER-/233845540661?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 Edited March 23, 2021 by Shred Gruumer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted March 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Close enough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 howdy shred did you bid for it? … buy it now $1.75 plus 99c … won't break your bank ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Hey! Has anybody ridden both the 168 and 162? @Jack M? I’ve got a 162, and that board is without a doubt the best ride I’ve ever had. But it is an SL board and when I’m at a bigger resort I would sometimes like a board that will run faster when still being driven hard. The SCR on the 168 looks comparable with the 162, but does it ride like a bigger board? What differentiates the ride qualities of the two boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I sold my 162 because it was too stiff for me at 155lbs. However I was able to jump on a 168 and ride the crap out of it with no problem at all. They are very different boards. I love the 168 and plan to keep it until I wear it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 22 hours ago, st_lupo said: Hey! Has anybody ridden both the 168 and 162? @Jack M? I’ve got a 162, and that board is without a doubt the best ride I’ve ever had. But it is an SL board and when I’m at a bigger resort I would sometimes like a board that will run faster when still being driven hard. The SCR on the 168 looks comparable with the 162, but does it ride like a bigger board? What differentiates the ride qualities of the two boards? I haven't ridden the K162. I own a F2 Proto 163 if that helps. The K168 turns longer and will run faster. It will still turn tight if you push it. I won a USASA SL against some legit competition on my K168 once. That said I won't use it for SL again now that I have this 163. I recommend the K168 unequivocally. If I could only own one board, that's it. (however I'm going to see if Winterstick can meet or beat it) In the unlikely event it's not for you, you will be able to sell it here easily. i-carve.com has the best prices on Kesslers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted April 3, 2021 Report Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 2:14 PM, Jack M said: I recommend the K168 unequivocally. If I could only own one board, that's it. Yes, this. I'll order a "female" custom version once my partner makes the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Back in 2013 I took a couple of runs on a lightly used K168 . Conditions were frozen groom and flat light, so not the best to get a feel for what it was capable of. It didn't feel any better than my new (at the time) custom sidecut (11-12) Donek Rev 175, so I passed on buying it. Based on all the reviews from K168 enthusiasts, I recently picked up a well used one to give it another try, just to see if it really was the Kessler unicorn. Having owned a custom K180 and a couple of custom 162's in the past (and demoed others), I was familiar with the super damp ride and great edge hold. While I like the ride, especially on ice, I never really liked the multi radius sidecuts, especially in carvable snow where the whole edge engages. If you only stay on your edge for 1-2 seconds, fluidly moving weight from nose to tail through the turn (like you're in a race course), it's smooth as silk. On the other hand, when holding a carve for more than a couple of seconds making complete turns across the fall line, I can feel the nose and tail trying to make different turns causing the board to pump as the nose catches and resets. I suppose the cure for this is to shift weight aft and not engage the full length of the edge. I may keep it for riding ice as it was the dampest, most comfortable ride of all my boards on rough ice and bumpy frozen groom. ...or, maybe I should face the fact that riding ice just ain't that much fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, bigwavedave said: I should face the fact that riding ice just ain't that much fun? Quiet, you fool! Are you wishing to summon the ancient evil, @Beckmann AG, from its depths?!? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 On 4/17/2022 at 10:25 AM, bigwavedave said: Back in 2013 I took a couple of runs on a lightly used K168 . Conditions were frozen groom and flat light, so not the best to get a feel for what it was capable of. It didn't feel any better than my new (at the time) custom sidecut (11-12) Donek Rev 175, so I passed on buying it. Based on all the reviews from K168 enthusiasts, I recently picked up a well used one to give it another try, just to see if it really was the Kessler unicorn. Having owned a custom K180 and a couple of custom 162's in the past (and demoed others), I was familiar with the super damp ride and great edge hold. While I like the ride, especially on ice, I never really liked the multi radius sidecuts, especially in carvable snow where the whole edge engages. If you only stay on your edge for 1-2 seconds, fluidly moving weight from nose to tail through the turn (like you're in a race course), it's smooth as silk. On the other hand, when holding a carve for more than a couple of seconds making complete turns across the fall line, I can feel the nose and tail trying to make different turns causing the board to pump as the nose catches and resets. I suppose the cure for this is to shift weight aft and not engage the full length of the edge. I may keep it for riding ice as it was the dampest, most comfortable ride of all my boards on rough ice and bumpy frozen groom. ...or, maybe I should face the fact that riding ice just ain't that much fun? IDK... I have ridden the K168 for a few hours only and I have found it to be one of the best carving boards I've ever ridden. I could carve any type of turn from short to medium/large, pop the transitions or not, race/Bomber style, EC... I haven't tried it on ice or frozen groom, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 49 minutes ago, BlueB said: IDK... I have ridden the K168 for a few hours only and I have found it to be one of the best carving boards I've ever ridden. I could carve any type of turn from short to medium/large, pop the transitions or not, race/Bomber style, EC... I haven't tried it on ice or frozen groom, though. What's the next best carving board you've ridden? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 Hmm..... Several stayed in very fond memories... Virus Vampire, Tinkler TNT, Kessler 180, various WCRMs, OES Looney, almost every Coiler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 I thought the same thing when I rode a Kessler for the first time 10 yrs ago, best carving board by far and permanently displaced my previous favorite carving boards. Then I rode Donek Rev, Coiler nirvana, SG frt, Oxess, etc, as they came up to speed with Kessler and found them to be equivalent in many ways and that the difference became a matter of taste. Just look at any podium. I had a few custom Coiler and Donek Revs made with near radial sidecuts because I didn't like the race vscr for recreational carving. That was more to my taste. Then I rode a Thirst and found the perfect carving board. But, that's a story for another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 I tend to like the near-radial cuts too. The 168 rode "rounder" than race Kesslers, for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 howdy blueb off-topic … how did your OES All-Mountain 167 ride? … did it ever go into production? … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 I replied in the AM167 thread, so we don't go OT here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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