dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Two things amaze me about those articles: 1. That us humans can achieve these precision movements with completely artificial tools, on completely artificial snow, in an arbitrary setting, with a body and brain with randomly selected adaptations/errors over a very long time. 2. That someone can pick up those tiny details and share them so others can get better with our artificial and arbitrary setting. We are amazing creatures. So, at a 30,000' level: Racing style is braking (controlling speed) without changing the desired arc radius? That completely makes sense given the sport! Yes, I realize that's the grossest of gross simplifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 "Computers are just rocks we tricked into thinking by trapping lighting in it." When we distill thing to its essence -- simplicity is the ultimate sophistication It's amazing scholar/engineer/scientist/mathematician can explain the how things work(in the context of carving) but hard to beat the raw talent/intuition. engineer can build fighter jet but not many can make "top gun". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Colozeus said: Lagging outside shoulder on heelside? Not enough articulation at hips which is why it looks like i'm just kind of tipping from one turn into another? I should probably stack a bit more towards the nose and initiate the transitions earlier. Is the outside shoulder lagging, or is the board gradually getting ahead creating the appearance of a lagging shoulder? There is a prevalent perception that one needs to actually ‘get’ onto the nose of the board to initiate a turn. This is essentially false. Rather, one needs to remain in an effective location tip to tail as the board rolls from edge to edge, in order to make use of the bend that develops. Perception being what it is, it’s easy to mistake the pressure that develops under the lead foot as something that needs to be sought by way of forward movement, rather than something that will develop if one is simply in the right place at the right time. So, as you enter the heelside turn, ensure that you have enough weight on the rear foot so that the board cannot rotate underneath you as the turn develops. This being a common byproduct of too much weight on the front heel, or merely initiating heelside edge engagement with the front foot rather than both feet. In order to engage with both feet, it's often helpful to find the heelside edge first with the rear foot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 i hear you and agree 100%. I am the same way; analyze and sometime over analyze. analysis paralysis. Physic/Math/snowboarding are not my strong suit; glad to see you can make it work for you. Carving is still more of a head game for me. How to build that mental fortitude needed; conquer fear/uncertainty/doubt is the challenge/fun part. OTOH: if the math check out; it should just hold lol... always another unforeseen variable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 13 hours ago, dgCarve said: Great riding! It is the way GS boards meant to be ridden . Great example of controlling the speed without braking using limbs or going up the hill . Looking at Kohei he does turn the board perpendicular to fall line as a way to bleed off speed. He doesnt go up hill per se but ... Also he is highly assymetrical in his turns - meaning he does this mostly on heelside rather then on toeside. Reasons are I think obvious See sequence from 1:25 on the steep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dgCarve said: 95% of turns on that steep slope were great Aggressive & controlled. Awesome. I'd gladly put up with a dodgy toeside if I could go maximum attack on steeps like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Ok what about 0:37 , 1:07 ? He does go uphill sometime. sure he does jump from turn to turn that's a fact. The energy for the jump comes from the fact that he finishes the turn in apex. If it is steep, If there is enough speed, board has flex more or less ideal for the rider, the board is high on the edge there is no way that you are not going to fly. One more for you https://youtu.be/1-IhVK-aAwc Edited December 15, 2020 by slapos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 i want to see more videos of people carving the really steep stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, dgCarve said: +1 In addition to everything else, is just scary to carve on such slopes, especially heel side. You have to fall dawn the hill with you back forward, and trust that your board will pick you up, and wont let you fall. There is simply no "smooth" engagement of the edge. There otherwise you will pick up too much speed. No, he is not! It is cameras perspective... Going uphill and racing technique "are incompatible". Please read the articles what I provided, you will understand why... Right so.... After the turn in 0 37 he "places" the board into the next turn. So this is camera perspective too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Still one of my favorite videos to watch so many different styles showcased here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 https://youtu.be/aoKFvtXdN 0 54 to 0 58. Damn that camera perspective.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hardboot Carving worth watching ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.free Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Colozeus said: i want to see more videos of people carving the really steep stuff. Here you go: Not a race technique but still worth watching 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Pure boarding/Jorg (just full of positive energy): blend of race and extreme technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Good summer 2021 material As a mere mortal: Free carve is what I am after race car(F1) is impressive blend of engineer marvel and athleticism but most ppl will likely to crash lol. Race carve is about keep speed up but my heart can't handle it at turning it up to 11 all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 i have learned so much just by watching these slow motion reels. Good stuff. I wish he would publish the regular speed versions of them. I couldn't find them last time i looked. 29 minutes ago, pow4ever said: Good summer 2021 material As a mere mortal: Free carve is what I am after race car(F1) is impressive blend of engineer marvel and athleticism but most ppl will likely to crash lol. Race carve is about keep speed up but my heart can't handle it at turning it up to 11 all the time. Is that bruce at 9:21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 @dgCarve post up some footage of your riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgCarve Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) Nice riding! Edited December 16, 2020 by dgCarve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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