LambertoMI Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Anyone see these new hybrid deeluxe? I think it’s a cool idea for soft boots hybrid but was cautious due to the unclear stiff uppers against hard boot bottoms. And $600k price. anyone try these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Not sure if anyone tried them... We did discuss them here- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Personally id say there to soft for anything but powder or mild riding. The flex is through deformation of the shell so they will break down just like how a soft boot does. As a result and them not being that stiff in the first place youll probably only get a season at most out of them before there to floppy to ride in and for a boot thats retailling at £469 its way way to much. Cool idea but to soft and to pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenguspengus Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) This is super interesting to me. Looks like these came out a year ago and I never noticed. Thanks for sharing the other thread @lonbordin and you personal review @scottishsurfer. I have been a softbooter forever and have been trying to convert since last year. I feel like this is the type of transition gear that I need. To tl;dr some of my personal history, I found myself some used hardboot gear and got started. With about 7 days under my belt, I broke my lead ankle (medial malleolus) on a green trail practicing 5 days ago. Maybe this would have been a better transition for me from softbooting than starting with full hardboots. There are a lot of lessons to learn and the curve has felt pretty steep. Better to keep learning on the slopes than on my couch. I’d love to hear more about the product if anyone has taken a pair on the snow. Edited January 25, 2020 by tenguspengus Giving credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 howdy tenguspengus no this is not good product for hardboots it is too soft. this would have broken your ankle in many more places... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenguspengus Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, west carven said: howdy tenguspengus no this is not good product for hardboots it is too soft. this would have broken your ankle in many more places... Thanks @west carven Mind helping me understand why that is the case please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 hours ago, tenguspengus said: Thanks @west carven Mind helping me understand why that is the case please? the boots are much less supportive than a hard boot so the injury would be probably be more due to an even more extreme flexation of the ankle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted August 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 So I found a good deal and bought a pair. i will suit them up this season and post a report. Should be interesting as they are stiff lowers, and medium uppers. The boots fit super well. More posts when the snow flies, ping me back here to remind me to write up a review Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 I know that Mark Kress had issues with the uppers separating from the lowers. it was fixable but still a failure from a hard charger... I have switched to UPZ ATB and really like the 4 buckle, softer tongue and the addition of dgss spring system 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 I like softer boots in general. But with wider feet, its tough to get a good balance. I always had soft boots for powder days, but the soft boots and bindings always fit wierd and never supported enough. I am hopefully these will function as soft boots for hardbooters like me. Not really a hardboot for softbooters. They might just end up somewhere between, but its all about comfort with these and if they can ride at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted January 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 So a bit of an update on the boots. Fitment - the boots in general are very stiff out of the box. The size seems to run a little smaller but standard liners are warm and supportive. That said, there is an added lace up leather/vinyl support that goes over the liner and is meant to secure the foot to the liner. It could be very comfortable. For me, it created several pressure points that were not comfortable to me. I disassembled the boots and found this inner support was the culprit. I removed them and re-inserted the liners. Much better fit! To this, I then added my molded liners and the fit was super comfortable. Ride report - the boots are very stiff. I was surprised at how well they perform for the quasi hard/soft boot. They had good initiations, built in forward lean, and solid edge control/engagement. The boots remove a lot of chatter from the ride. I was on typical ice sugar wet conditions that we have had this year and I was surprise how good they felt. Overall thoughts - these boots are probably not for everyone. I am not sure how they will hold up after 2-3 weeks of riding. I will have to report back later on that issue. Weight is the biggest plus! They weigh 1/3 to 1/2 of my standard deeluxe boots. This makes the weight on my feet so much less. Warmth is the other plus. Comfy and warm boots and i had no thermo issues on the first few days. Fit is nice. The boa system laces up with no pinch points. So there are not any binding points, no pinching, and no numbing areas from pressure. Summary - i would buy them again. I think they will be much nicer as I get older. They may soft up more to make them better for powder conditions. I hate my soft boots, and the hard boots are exhausting in powder. These will have a home for me on snow days, light use days, and make a good interim or training boot for those converting over to plates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardguru Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 My wife ordered a pair of Ground Control boots and they arrived today. She has been riding in Deeluxe 225's and wanted to try something different, not as stiff and heavy. Can't wait to hear how she likes them after we ride this weekend at PowMow. going to convert them to FinTec step ins. Hopefully she will enjoy them as much as you LambertoMI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Please let us know! I'm still looking for something softer. Seems the softer I go the better I ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 hours ago, JRAZZ said: Please let us know! I'm still looking for something softer. Seems the softer I go the better I ride. They are quite pleasant JRAZZ. They gave a good ride feel, but the question will be on the long haul. I will be interested how they feel after a week or two on them. Looks promising though. What size are your boots? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, LambertoMI said: What size are your boots? 27MP Just out of curiosity, do they work with Fintech/Intec heels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardguru Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 JRAZZ, Just finished mounting FinTec's on my wife's boots. EASY PEASY install, they already have the hole for the cable to go through. I will update what she thinks about them compared to her Deeluxe 225's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukenZ Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hi! So I discovered these boots just today. I'm more a softbooter looking for a harder experience than the opposite but I just bought a pair of Spark Arc bindings so my question is, do they fit with this kind of bindings? Or should I buy also another ones so I can use them? Thanks guys! Pleasure to have a community where you can find so much information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, LukenZ said: Hi! So I discovered these boots just today. I'm more a softbooter looking for a harder experience than the opposite but I just bought a pair of Spark Arc bindings so my question is, do they fit with this kind of bindings? Or should I buy also another ones so I can use them? Thanks guys! Pleasure to have a community where you can find so much information No, these would need harboot binding like Bombers or F2s. They would not work with the Spark. If you're looking for a "harder" experience (especially when choosing boots) look at the thread below but ultimately hardboots are hardboots. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 Spark Dyno DH if you want your spark kit, otherwise yeah, real plate bindings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 i think these might fit the sparks? Based on the image above. On 1/22/2021 at 3:58 PM, JRAZZ said: 27MP Just out of curiosity, do they work with Fintech/Intec heels? Yes they do. They have the full intec compatible heel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, LambertoMI said: i think these might fit the sparks? They will work with the Spark bail bindings. The Spark Arc is a two strap high back soft boot binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damion Terrell Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 I bought the Spark R&D Dyno DH plate bindings but I couldn't get them to fit my Deeluxe Suzukas. They were too tall from base to lip. The Dyno DH plate bindings are apparently made more for an AT ski boot. Plus you also need a way to convert the toes to the Spark Tech Toes. Has anyone had success with such a conversion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 FYI - I have an extra set now that I will be putting up for sale shortly. Clearing out my closet this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardguru Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 My wife has been using these last season and this season. Loves them Lighter than her Deeluxe 225s and way more comfy. She is not looking to go back to her 225s anytime soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan69 Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 I bought a pair of Ground Control boots as a first try at alpine riding. I'm pairing them with my inner boots from my Neidecker Talon soft-boots on F2 Intec bindings on top of my Swivler riser plates. I've worked with Donek to spec out a 175 Flux, 23.5cm waist, 9.5-11m SCR. Angles are F:45, R:36. Shown on an old Head Intelligence board. I'll post later in the year how well they perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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