jlin Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Hi Everyone, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! I'm excited to get on the slopes this season but something that has been bothering me for a while has been my boot comfort and I was hoping to get peoples suggestions, experiences, thoughts etc. Background is I currently have a mondo 27 Deeluxe 325T and they fit snug. They were snug before heat molding, especially around the toes (my left foot is ever so slightly larger than my right) so when I did my heat molding I wore my thickest socks and put on a toe cap. After a few seasons now of breaking in my boots, even with my thinnest socks I still get toe pain in my toe box area after half the day. To the point where I need to stop and let my toes recover for a bit before heading out for the second half of the day. I was hoping that things would get better, but I'm at the point where I'm open to all suggestions. New boots size 27.5? 28? New liner? Re-heatmolding? I'd appreciate any ideas people have or experiences they can share. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Call a Toe Truck! Find a good boot fitter that can punch out the toe box. They can usually heat up the shell a little and push out the plastic to give you a bit more space. Happy Holidays! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Is it possible that your foot is now slipping forward with a packed-out liner? I went the opposite way, with the thinnest socks I had for molding but considerable padding around my toes. I cut the toes from cheap wetsuit socks, added a few pieces of neoprene scrap between toes, and another strip across the front of my toes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 I took cheap Chinese neoprene gloves and cut suitable pieces for my toes for thermo phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 9 hours ago, dredman said: Call a Toe Truck! Find a good boot fitter that can punch out the toe box. They can usually heat up the shell a little and push out the plastic to give you a bit more space. Happy Holidays! I saw the photo and needed more information. Especially since I knew that was a VW Bus and it's not towing anything. There's a left and right foot.. hilarious. https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/1763 Sorry for the threadjack, but seriously a trip to a decent bootfitter will probably be the best advice we can provide OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 The fact that it's half a day before it becomes a real issue suggests that it may be an insecure fit rather than too tight a fit and that your foot is actually sliding forward in the boot. If it really is too tight then the best solution is to have a ski boot fitter punch out the shell. as an intermediate step though, try toe-socks. Injinji make a wool liner sock which is very thin and I now use them both for skiing and snowboarding. The fact that the sock isn't squeezing my toes together makes an appreciable difference in how warm my feet stay, and I bet it would help with a slightly too tight fit also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 15 hours ago, jlin said: I currently have a mondo 27 Deeluxe 325T What's your street shoe size? I'm a US 11.5-12 and squeeze into mondo 28 comfortably after a couple of weeks of breakin. Don't forget your foot hygiene! .....obviously cut back those toenails a few days before riding and if you have any toe fungal, even that slight toenail thickness growth can cause boot discomfort.......file down the surface of those thicker/raised infected nails. And don't forget your foot calluses under the ball of your foot on both sides... these can also take up space in your boot which puts more pressure on your toes. A Ped egg with a handle can easily work those calluses down. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41P-aDLUxZL.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSeen-Foot-File-Handle-3-Pack%2Fdp%2FB004R7O2Q0&docid=t-vBIqUz8BYi7M&tbnid=00Fcrpc-kY2IXM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiVpfXovNHmAhVjmuAKHQfaDx8QMwi1ASgAMAA..i&w=245&h=400&bih=809&biw=1026&q=ped egg with handle&ved=0ahUKEwiVpfXovNHmAhVjmuAKHQfaDx8QMwi1ASgAMAA&iact=mrc&uact=8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Are both feet affected, or only the left? Goofy or regular? Greek, Egyptian, or Cuboid? All toes affected, or only the longest? Heel contour: Svelte or bulbous, bone spurs/protrusions or not? Known pronation/supination, or not? Adequate foot support? Does a shell fit reveal that you have more or less than 1 cm clearance? 'Pain' means different things to different people. Can you be more specific as to what you're experiencing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyride Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 When molding my 9.5 foot into a 26.5 boot, I use 4 pieces of socks over my forefoot in the toe box area along with my regular weight ski socks. I also duct tape them in place when sliding them into the boot so they don't slip when inserting them into a tight boot. Very tight when molding and during the cool down, but very comfortable after they've set. Also different thicknesses for moldable liners. I've hit Play it Again sports and looked for old softboot liners (think Raichle) that have not been molded, and used those. Thin liners that fit properly are warmer than thick liners that are too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlin Posted December 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 23 hours ago, Jonny said: The fact that it's half a day before it becomes a real issue suggests that it may be an insecure fit rather than too tight a fit and that your foot is actually sliding forward in the boot. If it really is too tight then the best solution is to have a ski boot fitter punch out the shell. as an intermediate step though, try toe-socks. Injinji make a wool liner sock which is very thin and I now use them both for skiing and snowboarding. The fact that the sock isn't squeezing my toes together makes an appreciable difference in how warm my feet stay, and I bet it would help with a slightly too tight fit also. Awesome, thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to try the toe-socks and see if that makes things better before punching out the shell. 19 hours ago, barryj said: What's your street shoe size? I'm a US 11.5-12 and squeeze into mondo 28 comfortably after a couple of weeks of breakin. Don't forget your foot hygiene! .....obviously cut back those toenails a few days before riding and if you have any toe fungal, even that slight toenail thickness growth can cause boot discomfort.......file down the surface of those thicker/raised infected nails. And don't forget your foot calluses under the ball of your foot on both sides... these can also take up space in your boot which puts more pressure on your toes. A Ped egg with a handle can easily work those calluses down. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41P-aDLUxZL.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSeen-Foot-File-Handle-3-Pack%2Fdp%2FB004R7O2Q0&docid=t-vBIqUz8BYi7M&tbnid=00Fcrpc-kY2IXM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiVpfXovNHmAhVjmuAKHQfaDx8QMwi1ASgAMAA..i&w=245&h=400&bih=809&biw=1026&q=ped egg with handle&ved=0ahUKEwiVpfXovNHmAhVjmuAKHQfaDx8QMwi1ASgAMAA&iact=mrc&uact=8 I'm a 10-10.5 street shoe size, so I think a mondo 27 right and thus I wanted to get some opinions before moving to another boot or liner size. My foot hygiene is in good shape, but it sounds like I might need to find a good boot fitter to try to punch out my shell. 1 hour ago, Beckmann AG said: Are both feet affected, or only the left? Goofy or regular? Greek, Egyptian, or Cuboid? All toes affected, or only the longest? Heel contour: Svelte or bulbous, bone spurs/protrusions or not? Known pronation/supination, or not? Adequate foot support? Does a shell fit reveal that you have more or less than 1 cm clearance? 'Pain' means different things to different people. Can you be more specific as to what you're experiencing? It's both my feet, I ride regular and it's mainly around my pinky toe. The pain is not so much my toes are cold, but more so that they're being crushed. I feel as if they're lacking circulation after some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 'Crushed' toward the distal, or proximal end of the toe? If you pulled the sock immediately, would the toe be white? When you remove your feet from the boots, does the 'circulation' return immediately, or does it take progressively longer to regain sensation if you ride for several days in a row? Do you feel solidly 'planted' on both feet while in the bindings, or do you feel like you're bearing weight to the outside of each foot? You might wear the liners around the house, at your desk, etc for a few hours and see if the liner itself is more of a cause than the shell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 @jlin Don't equate shoe size to Mondo Point boot size. This is a good thread to measure also the shell test is really important to be able to know where you are at... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.