Jack M Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I tried this board at the SES and had a great time on it, but couldn't make a critical assessment of it on all that sweet hero snow. At that time I was thinking the board turned much tighter than the rumored 22m equivalent sidecut radius. Out there I estimated 15 or 16m. Got a chance to ride it this weekend at Sugarloaf - wow. On the harder snow it rode much longer, it's probably 17 or 18m. Certainly not 22m, but longer than the 15m board I used to have (and loved). Mike only gives his estimates of what the equivalent radius is, because it's not a radial sidecut. If you like armpit dragging down your favorite steeps at mach schnell, I recommend taking a test drive. I wouldn't have thought a 180 could go so fast, but the board never hinted at instability, and edge hold was superb. The board is lively and if you space out it can launch you. But you can channel that energy as well. That's not to say it demands constant attention like the 170, you can definitely relax on it and just lean it over if you need a break. Also the 180 length was quite maneuverable while not carving. I was even inspired to take it down a steep glade. Once I was in there it was a bit much to handle, but just the fact that I even tried tells you something. Anyway, I don't want to blather on about it. If you like fast boards, put this one on your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 are they going to put it into production? Kinda bummed they didnt already. maybe when production issues get worked out. a 180 would be more up my alley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 You were here this weekend and didn't say hi? tsk tsk Just for that, I'm going to tell you how awesome Spillway was this morning: On a scale of 1 to 10, it was a Wicked Freakin Awesome, even better than it was on Sat morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertrash Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 i hope the conditions hold up, hoping to be up there for sat and sun. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Originally posted by mirror70 You were here this weekend and didn't say hi? tsk tsk Sorry dude. I was there with some good old friends on a "guy's weekend". The pitch of the weekend was Flume. Pure chalk. My nipples are getting hard just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Originally posted by trailertrash i hope the conditions hold up, hoping to be up there for sat and sun. john Take a look at this forecast and tell me if you think the conditions will be decent: http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLocalStd.asp?loc=usmect13398&seg=LocalWeather&prodgrp=Forecasts&product=Forecast&prodnav=none&pid=none Keep in mind that the forecast is for Kingfield, which is 25mi away (to the south) and it is generally 3-5ºF colder here than there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Just stepped off one about an hour ago - definitely a railin' machine. Requires some serious input, but it DOES give it back in spades! At just over a buck-and-a-half (my weight), my legs and core muscles were workin' OT - what a ride! WTC continues... up to Park City tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Kirk, Andrew cried the whole way home about leaving the Madd 170 he rode (hogged) for most of the day. It was great to see him rail like he did on a board he had never even heard of before today. Nice meeting you and your dad (and everyone else). Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Mark, Very nice meeting you and Andrew. And, yes, I could see it in Andrew's face that he did NOT want to go home without that 170. Looked like he was gettin' it wired too! And you were obviously hooked on that Donek. More gear than you could shake a...ski pole at! Sorry you couldn't make it up to PC today. Warm temps - spring is officially here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~tb Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I got to ride the 180 at stratton the other day and had a good time on it! nice pop, fast transitions and nice and stable. I agree with jack in that the board turned much tighter than I thought it would for its "advertised sidecut radius." Vanessa shot this quick vid clip (using a little olympus digital point and shoot camera. . . no sound) of me just screwing around on the 180. yeah, I know i was doing a whole bunch of stuff wrong here. . . but still thought I would still share. Unfortuneately we werent on a steep enough piece of terrain to really lay them out while keeping the speed up. That was earlier in the day!!! http://www.ourwalden.net/stratton2005/tsnowboarding.MOV ~tb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pepe Le Pew Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Jack, I'm curious about your comment on the 170. Can you expand on this? That's not my experience at all. I found that board to be very predictable. And the 180 has pretty much the same characteristics but you've got more board, which is nice when the runs are wider. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Sure, the board is predictable, it's just very turny, imo. If you get lazy and let it run too fast, your next carve is going to happen very quickly. Whereas on the 180 you can just let it cruise. I think I'm a long board guy in general. I don't think I'll ever own a board shorter than 170 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Take that back Jack!!!!!!! Everyone needs a good Sl ride, it makes you remember how smooth and easy a G.S. board is to ride. Oh well, everyone has their own take on snowboarding. I'm just jelous that I have seen the 180 on several occasions, but have yet to get on it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilledog Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Just ring Billy, Philly!! It's a plank.. It was great to meet Kirk, Rick, Andrew and Mark also Davo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I tried the 180 at SES and had to have it. I now own demo #6 the Leveler, and boy it is a joy. Its high speed stability is unrivaled by boards even north of 200cm. I love it! Too bad I am ordered no carving for 6 weeks, just had my appendix taken out. There should still be some snow left though =). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Got to play on the "formula" for the past few days...BOy oh Boy...what a ride. The only way they will get it back is to pry it out of my cold dead hands. I think I am in love. enough flattery... first night, I was a little scared to really get after it, and just kind of cruised. Second night...confidence was high and I started diving into the turns. The Board responded like a champ. Sit back, take it easy and carve big lazy turns, or get agressive and a fat bastard like myself can bend the hell out of this board and make it turn some pretty tight turns. Definitely Tighter than I was expecting after reading up on it, and it equvalent 22m SCR. I figure I had it turning like a 15. the long and short of...People on the lift were impressed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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