workshop7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jack M said: I hope you saw the wink, I did not mean any harm. I only meant that hardboots still have their place. And I meant it in good fun. Understood. No worries. I’m still more passionate about riding hard than soft. I just can’t get enough of the damn Flux lately. I would try riding it with hardboots but it’s 28 wide so that’s not gonna to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, workshop7 said: I would try riding it with hardboots but it’s 28 wide so that’s not gonna to happen. DO IT!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneel Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 @workshop7, Sean built me a 22 wide Flux, my second actually, which is my goto ride at Stratton especially when I've rolled out of bed too late. It's an excellent hardboot platform that performs very well in the "diverse" conditions we experience here in the NE. From pow to bulletproof, you can ride it all day and it's just so damn predictable even as conditions deteriorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoroSnow Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm planning to have Sean build me a Flux for the next season....Till now , my softboot fleet was including two stock '05 and '06 glass Inclines...Very happy with them, but want some new and more damp toy now...What have you guys Flux happy owners been going with?...stock models, special sauce construction....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RoroSnow said: I'm planning to have Sean build me a Flux for the next season....Till now , my softboot fleet was including two stock '05 and '06 glass Inclines...Very happy with them, but want some new and more damp toy now...What have you guys Flux happy owners been going with?...stock models, special sauce construction....? My buddy & I demo'd a couple of boards from Donek: a Flux and a Saber. We both loved the Flux. I ordered one the same length that I demo'd (159), a bit wider (28) and built for my weight (160 lbs). Love it. Can't think of what I would do differently. Edited March 19, 2019 by JohnE photo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawndoggy Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 26.5 waist bxfr with softies. I can't make it REALLY rail like hardboots will, but it's a hoot in variable conditions where there are lots of peeps to mix it up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workshop7 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, RoroSnow said: What have you guys Flux happy owners been going with?...stock models, special sauce construction....? My Flux was based on a stock 167. The only change I asked for was a wider waist (28cm). @shawndoggy What are you riding for angles in that video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawndoggy Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, workshop7 said: @shawndoggy What are you riding for angles in that video? I'd be lying if I said I knew for sure. My guess would be like 45ish front and 38ish rear? Not as aggressive as my hardboot setup (55/50) but still "forward." Basically I just went to where I have zero overhang. Also running bomber power plates (3*3* mostly lift but a little inward cant too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 No one cares what boots I wear... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, slopestar said: No one cares what boots I wear... This thread proves the opposite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 tried for the life of me to edit and upload... a couple turns in traffic in softies Another from Crystal Mountain. A bit spent here... full cruise mode 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Using the argument that High Speeds and Steep Pitches are the Ultimate in HB, that is Correct...though for me, they were Ski Boots with Skis...I skied for years in HB before I ever stepped on a Snowboard, there is a reason why, the FIS has Snowboard and Ski Races separated...was just thinking about Mikaela and what an incredible season she has had...today with the firm conditions here I actually thought I might like to get some Skis again after 35 years...going 60 on Skis is way easier than on a Single Stick folks, there are thousands of young minds being influenced toward Skis, just because of Her... and here is a shot I took two years ago at the WC races here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, slopestar said: No one cares what boots I wear... That’s because you ride flow bindings. We all think you’re in sorrels or LL Bean duck boots. truthfully though, what boots DO you wear? Pretty convinced the boot (and calf size) has a lot to do with if you like flow bindings or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bobdea said: That’s because you ride flow bindings. We all think you’re in sorrels or LL Bean duck boots. truthfully though, what boots DO you wear? Pretty convinced the boot (and calf size) has a lot to do with if you like flow bindings or not. Flow talon focus boa. Very stiff... I get about 1.5 seasons out of a pair. 40-60 days. The ones I’m riding are packed out so bad that I added a simple foot bed. Hard boots are fantastic but the subtle pressuring I get from softies is where it’s at for me. Never felt comfortable leaning into the tongue on a hard shell. I have been on flow boots and bindings for 22 years. I’m not changing now. Just rebuilt 2 pairs of Nx2’s and pair of the nx2’s with the nylon(or whatever) highbacks. Next season, a new pair of the carbons and fresh set of boots. I rip out boa laces like they are going out of style. I have several ankle ladder ratchet straps if anyone needs them. I’m so stoked on snowboarding. Can’t wait to see friends this weekend that I have hardly ridden with all year. A-basin on Sunday... see you there Marvin’ Edited March 20, 2019 by slopestar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 13 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: Using the argument that High Speeds and Steep Pitches are the Ultimate in HB, that is Correct...though for me, they were Ski Boots with Skis...I skied for years in HB before I ever stepped on a Snowboard, there is a reason why, the FIS has Snowboard and Ski Races separated...was just thinking about Mikaela and what an incredible season she has had...today with the firm conditions here I actually thought I might like to get some Skis again after 35 years...going 60 on Skis is way easier than on a Single Stick folks, there are thousands of young minds being influenced toward Skis, just because of Her... I don't think anybody denies that skis are superior for ultimate speed and edge hold. A significant number of people leave our sport for exactly that reason. However there is just something special about standing somewhat sideways and having both feet on one board. Some people are simply meant to do it, some are meant not to. I see very very few skiers who can carve similarly. Snowboarding overall is indeed in decline because skiing is cool again and it is easier for little kids to learn it. Years ago snowboarding enjoyed a population boom because it was the hot new fad and skiing was not. Now the only kids who come to snowboarding are the ones who see the surf and want to catch our waves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 hours ago, slopestar said: Flow talon focus boa. Very stiff... I get about 1.5 seasons out of a pair. 40-60 days. The ones I’m riding are packed out so bad that I added a simple foot bed. Hard boots are fantastic but the subtle pressuring I get from softies is where it’s at for me. Never felt comfortable leaning into the tongue on a hard shell. I have been on flow boots and bindings for 22 years. I’m not changing now. Just rebuilt 2 pairs of Nx2’s and pair of the nx2’s with the nylon(or whatever) highbacks. Next season, a new pair of the carbons and fresh set of boots. I rip out boa laces like they are going out of style. I have several ankle ladder ratchet straps if anyone needs them. I’m so stoked on snowboarding. Can’t wait to see friends this weekend that I have hardly ridden with all year. A-basin on Sunday... see you there Marvin’ Alright, confirmed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I broke the boa mechanism on my k2 maysis back when i was riding in softboots. BOA sent me a free replacement nob and associated hardware. It was easy to replace. Are you blowing out your boots in such a way that they simply can't be repaired? That sounds like total caca if you have to replace your boots every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Colozeus said: I broke the boa mechanism on my k2 maysis back when i was riding in softboots. BOA sent me a free replacement nob and associated hardware. It was easy to replace. Are you blowing out your boots in such a way that they simply can't be repaired? That sounds like total caca if you have to replace your boots every season. Yes. The boa guide tears out of the boot. My boa coilers pop open during just about every run. Edited March 21, 2019 by slopestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, slopestar said: The boa guide tears out of the boot. My boa coilers pop open during just about every run. You're not really selling me on this plan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Corey said: You're not really selling me on this plan... I wish there was a high end boot with regular laces... but it doesn’t exist. Not trying to sell it. I deal with what I have to deal with... we all carried zip ties and duct tape back in the late 80’s/early 90’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I love my Burton Ion boots...then again I use 3 straps ... Skis also carve...it is not just Speed and Edge Hold...single edge is a feeling they cannot get 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, slopestar said: The boa guide tears out of the boot. My boa coilers pop open during just about every run. Nothing subtle about exploding Boas. Maybe install a set of Booster straps to better distribute the load? Will also come in handy when you powder your nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: Skis also carve...it is not just Speed and Edge Hold...single edge is a feeling they cannot get that's why my ski skills are so rusty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: I love my Burton Ion boots...then again I use 3 straps ... Skis also carve...it is not just Speed and Edge Hold...single edge is a feeling they cannot get i dunno, i maybe have 3 days on ski's. Every time i see an advanced skier carving some very nice and aggressive turns, i tell myself i want to do that. If i had more days on the snow i would probably split my days 50/50 hardboots then ski. carving fast on skis looks freaking amazing and fun. 14 hours ago, slopestar said: Yes. The boa guide tears out of the boot. My boa coilers pop open during just about every run. Wow, you must be putting some serious loads on it. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Colozeus said: i dunno, i maybe have 3 days on ski's. Every time i see an advanced skier carving some very nice and aggressive turns, i tell myself i want to do that. If i had more days on the snow i would probably split my days 50/50 hardboots then ski. carving fast on skis looks freaking amazing and fun. Wow, you must be putting some serious loads on it. Makes sense. Years ago I made the mistake of boa boots. This is why other than stiffness I haven’t really considered leaving the burton driver X. youd thing boas would have improved in the last 15 years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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