D.Roe Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Hi, I recently bought an unridden 2000/01 Tanker 192. It appears to have a few hairline cracks in the topsheet. (I have a 182 Tanker of the same year -- which has been ridden a lot! -- and it has no such cracks.) Does water likely get into such hairline cracks? If so, what is the solution? A small bead of superglue over the cracks? Maybe paint the whole topsheet with a new clear coat? Thanks for any suggestions! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 It's toasted... I suggest you send It to me for objective on-snow assessment and safe disposal ;) I love the 192s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Roe Posted December 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Hey Boris, I've appreciated your many posts over the years, and if this were not my only 192, I might just send it to you... But, alas... it is my only 192 and I'm thinking I also might just love the 192s. :-) Cheers, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Roe Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Here are a couple of pics of the hairline cracks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Roe Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 On an older thread, someone suggested trying sealing such topsheet cracks simply with clear fingernail polish. Anyone ever actually tried that? My current plan is to mark the cracks, ride the board a day, and inspect for lengthening of cracks. If the don't get longer, I may just try fingernail polish. If they do get longer I'll lightly grind them with my Dremel tool and then put epoxy on them. JB -Weld dries to almost this dark if you don't sand it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Do you have cats? A nice coat of carnauba wax will look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Roe Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 No, these are hairline cracks, not feline scratches... :-) The carnauba wax idea is interesting -- thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 If the cracks are only where the bindings were mounted id say the core is breaking down and ride with extreme caution . You really don't want to be riding down the hill and have your front foot and binding come apart !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hopefully it's just the cosmetic clear coat on the top sheet but I keep an eye on it if the propogate or start to feel raised there is something much more serious going on. The clear coat on my first board has completely spidered from years of use and abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, D.Roe said: My current plan is to mark the cracks, ride the board a day, and inspect for lengthening of cracks. This sounds like a good plan. I really hope the core is not delaming vertically as Lowrider suggested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 The glass layer, on the top, is like any Volkl of similar vintage.It's a crack in the upper glass layer. It's a harbinger, but, well away from the board's demise. Ride it, just watch/inspect as you go. It should be good-to-go for awhile. BUT, if you feel any 'corresponding' deformation in lower layers (such as side-wall cracks, or suddenly non-flat base areas, then park it.. The inserts themselves get stressed, and move fore/aft (twisting) when used with plates, or get pushed/pulled hard in carves, so that affects the upper/lower layers adversely. .Few Epoxies can be 'thin' enough to seal such cracks, and won't contribute much strength anyways. Just monitor this and IF they grow (the cracks), then reconsider. But, for now, Ride It!! "PSR" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Roe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Thanks a lot Eric, and everyone! Your comment "like any Volkl of similar vintage" got me to take a closer look at my much-ridden 182 of the same year -- and I discovered that it indeed also has a number of random cracks on the topsheet. But it has less cracks than the 192, which is supposed to be "unridden" (the 192 base looks original and has no scratches). On both boards, the cracks appear mostly to be random -- mostly not occurring at specific stress points. So I'm thinking that the cracks in the 2000/01 vintage are not primarily related to stress/use, but more to age (and storage situation). So you're right -- I should ride the board before it gets any older!! ;-) Regarding epoxy... You are probably right that it can't stop cracks from lengthening. But regarding the viscosity of epoxy, and getting it into cracks: I met an interesting guy here in the Pfalz who was a Burton rep and team tuner at Burton's beginning here in Europe who gave a good tip on getting epoxy thin enough to seal relatively narrow cracks... My 2008/09 Tanker 200 has had a slight, narrow separation between the steel edge and the sidewall. He said to heat the epoxy to get it thin -- so I mixed it on a tin can lid, held it over a candle for a few seconds, and it did in fact become very thin! Cheers, David 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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