slopestar Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 2011/12 sg 185 full race titan Snow was 2" of man made tilled in just barely frozen granular. Great for a softy but scary in hardboots. I have never ridden this new to me board and honestly, was a bit scared of it. Small sidecut boards are easy and nimble but this was white knuckle for me...advice? Felt like it didn't want to turn even if tipped over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Originally Posted by Erik JAt the top of the run, grab your balls with one hand and beat your chest with the other like a wild silverback gorilla. Tell the mountain "I'm coming, do not f@$k with me." unless you like nose flips, i'd go with a different board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 I did. Any advice on transitioning from SL/BX based boards to something bigger would be helpful... I usually don't ask. I do and get this? Wth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Soft slush is tough to carve in. I find I struggle to bend the stiffer/bigger boards. If I do push hard enough to bend it, it feels like it wants to sink down to the dirt. As you found, the small boards are more fun in slush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 First day today on a 183 Skwal 15 metre side cut more work than I anticipated. Fun but you have to work for your turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Snow conditions aside, you are anticipating a tighter turn and consequently angulate less (leaning to the center of the turn more). You don't get the tight turn at that edge angle and so fall to the inside of the turn. Solution: angulate consciously. It'll become natural quickly. I have an older version of that board and did exactly what I described the first few times. It still happens when I'm making a low speed carved turn, like at the end of a run, and forget what board I'm on (aka getting sloppy). Also, take this out on an empty slope if possible so you don't feel pressured. You'll find you can bring it around pretty quickly. It's a different story if you're trying to avoid all manner of sideshows and on-slope parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) That thing has a massive scr. When you are doing 20 mph, add 5 mph then tip it and hang on!! I didn't mean to be sarcastic either bro!! Hope it didn't come across that way. Speed, truly, you need speed. Coming from what you know is a BIG jump, I think you kinda missed that 170-180 mid length board with that 13-15 m SCR (I could be wrong on that obviously) I can't ride anything bigger than a 14 m SCR, they just don't initiate turns easily for my riding style. Even the 196 Oxess I had made is a 14 m SCR. Pure free craving, no racing obviously. I remember trying my 197 Burner and fell on my belly three times before I realized how much speed I needed to be doing before I tried to turn that MF. They are beautiful boards and in the right hands they can be ridden well. Cant remember who it was but the quote went something like "Boards with big SCR can smell the fear" Definitely need big boy pants on riding it. My $0.02 K Edited March 8, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 it is a beast of a board that likes to be driven hard. Really hard. Stay off of it unless it is really firm, iirc it has a 21m sidecut, so speed, power, and firm snow are elements it needs for happiness mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I did. Any advice on transitioning from SL/BX based boards to something bigger would be helpful... I usually don't ask. I do and get this? Wth? disregarded humour aside, it has been my personal discovery that long stiff boards with biggish SCR and soft deepish surfaces to not make for lasting happiness. in fact, even a 172 with 12m sidecut made for far too many noseflips, as recently as wednesday passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Thanks Kieran. I am a softy carver most of the time. My custom Donek saber with 9-11 SCR is pretty much my scalpel of choice. But that 185 has been waiting all winter and I had to take it up for at least one lap before our informal gathering AKA SNES in a couple weeks. Appreciate the advice and even the humor, just didn't expect a ribbing right out of the gate... I don't think I was able to get it up to proper speed and June will definitely give some more running room. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Added some, hopefully, helpful notes to my above post bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Wondering why you would even want that board Based on the boards you usually ride Edited March 8, 2015 by Bobby Buggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 That thing has a massive scr. When you are doing 20 mph, add 5 mph then tip it and hang on!! Cant remember who it was but the quote went something like "Boards with big SCR can smell the fear" Definitely need big boy pants on riding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy... Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Try a few different 185's before you judge them all based on one ride. The Kesslers tend to be a little bit more friendly. I wouldn't say more forgiving; you still better come correct... but a little bit more friendly. Once you wrap your head around the insane edge hold, you'll get used to the additional speed. But be forewarned: when they do step out, you better hang on to your ass. They're not for light weight, weak legged or weak willed riders with commitment issues, nor are they for flat, narrow, or crowded trails. Smelling fear is actually a pretty accurate description because they will reward the smart and skilled and punish the foolish and clumsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Awesome advice. I have been missing that mid board for sure but I got the SG at a great price and I know there will be days for it. This wasn't one of them. On that note... Looking for that mid wide, built for 190+, metal, coiler, donek, 11-14 SCR bigger SL/FC type board 164-174. Have the proteus 170 demo as a trade as well. Really fun board but I need something a bit more diverse Edited March 8, 2015 by slopestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 http://forums.bomberonline.com/index.php?/topic/41432-coiler-vsr-fc-168/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I would fold that board. I have broken Burton customs in softies. My saber is made stiffer than the stock BX with 1/2 the rubber. Needs to be made for a heavier weight range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Awesome advice. I have been missing that mid board for sure but I got the SG at a great price and I know there will be days for it. This wasn't one of them. On that note... Looking for that mid wide, built for 190+, metal, coiler, donek, 11-14 SCR bigger SL/FC type board 164-174. Have the proteus 170 demo as a trade as well. Really fun board but I need something a bit more diverse particularly what teach said about uncrowded slopes. freedom to choose your line makes everything easier, and while you could probably crank the turns out in a crowded area just the same afterward, there's nothing like space the first few times. if you don't mind stock boards, a völkl renntiger 178 would probably be quite good. the black rubbertop models with the silver tiger seem to have a sidecut that is longer in the nose and tail than 13m radius suggests. i have the 183, but i'm at least 230# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 A Coiler is not a Burton Custom... Besides the Volkl, the Oxygen Proton GS have big radius sidecuts for their size, as do the Burton Factory Prime/UltraPrime. That allows you to get calibrated for larger radius sidecuts without feeling like you're the guy carrying the long 2 x 4 in the classic slapstick routine. A different way to go would be a Coiler AM or Donek Axxess with bigger scr. The advantage is that they would work everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) I'm fat. Its true. I sold Slopstar my custom 165 Bamboo Donek a few years ago and if was/is F'n stiff even to me with hard boots and plates I've seen veideos of him riding it IN SOFTIES and he was bending the sh*t out of it. This guy needs a beefy boards for certain!!! Edited March 8, 2015 by big canuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks Kurt. I have been known to bend a board. Love that thing! It has seen a lot of days and is near identical to the saber I'm riding now. Albeit, not quite as stiff. I weigh in at about 210 Edited March 8, 2015 by slopestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Fun cut pow day on the Donek bamboo spatula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) New saber Edited March 8, 2015 by slopestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 How do ya mac chicks with that helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The mask comes off when I need it to. Chicks dig the mask... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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