SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I only ask because I think I did today at Shasta.:( I was just cruzing not doing anything, I was coming up on some Newb's, I did a typical lazy heel slide to slow down from about 15 mph to about 10 or less, the nose hooked a ski rut and slammed to a jerking stop , my lead foot also jammed to an abrupt stop the board and all jerked sideways and down I went in real pain. I felt a crunch in my ankle kind of like jumping off a high ladder into the pavement strait into the feet with the ankle being the weak link. I was in immediate real pain, I got my boot off ( no small feat ) writhed around in agony in 3ft off piste for a minuet then packed it down into the snow and sat there and tried to "look casual" ( I didn't work ) I tried to get up and put weight on it NO WAY feelt like the worst sprain I have ever had or a fracture ?????? I had to take the Red + slide ride out to the "break & snap shack", lol. So that's not a big deal, I'm already home a couple beers down, a pump up splint boot I picked up at a thrift store on the way back, a Tylenol-Codine and I'm ok, "BUT" what the hell gives , can you really break an ankle in a good fitting hard boot with no lateral bending . ?????? I thought I had all the bases covered, and one of them was hard boots Anyone experience a jammed, severe sprain or fracture wearing H-boots ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Haven't done it but have seen it... BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Heck yes - in fact you can break an ankle in stiff racing ski boots. Hope yours is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I did 2 seasons ago. Not cool. I wish you a speed recovery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I bet Fibula. Get an Xray. Best way to know for sure. My GF is 7 weeks out from one, a plate and 2 screws later, she is OK. Hope for the best, atleast it isn't "serious" as an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I did 2 seasons ago. Not cool. I wish you a speed recovery! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: You broke Your ankle in hard boots !!!!!!!!! * sigh. You guys also say you have seen it happen, ohhhh geeeez, oh well, thanks for answering my question. Just before I did this trick, I was just a little tired and sore from chasing a looser with a laser on Thurs night, then 5 hours of riding Shasta today, I was being Mr Nice guy, not bombing the run and DAM, of all the things to happen, lol. By hook or crook I will "hobble" out to Bachelor for my 1st OES in ealry march. I am so000000 jones'ing to see a gang of real carvers, ride real groom ( not the death ride-ice ruts I always ride ), "and" take a private carving -coaching lesson. Do you guys know how bad I got it >>>> my p.c desk top is the trail map of Bachelor, that is how much I am want to be a OES. Thanks again answering my question, Im starting to smile again my 2nd T with Codine is kickin in , lol .:):p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I bet Fibula. Get an Xray. Best way to know for sure.My GF is 7 weeks out from one, a plate and 2 screws later, she is OK. Hope for the best, atleast it isn't "serious" as an injury. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry to hear that man, pins & screws can be devastating. As for me, So I don't think this is "serious", I know for sure its not a Tib or Fib , its down in the articulating joint area. Again , sorry to hear she is gonna always set off metal detectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoetrencher Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 A tib/fib can spiral down into the ankle knob. Count on it. I've done it twice. In hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Severe sprain - check. Broke my boot shell while I was at it. I thought for sure I had broken it at the time, it hurt like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Ohhhhhh, Yeah.... Don't ask me how I know... Geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 A tib/fib can spiral down into the ankle knob. Count on it.I've done it twice. In hard boots. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- My REPLY: >>>> "DAM" <<<<<< A few questions; 1) Was it the same ankle> twice ? 2) Were you in a hard cast, and how long ? 3) How long till you could boot up again ? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklebeast Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 If you got the coverage, check it...if not, keep off it, ice it for the 1st 48/72hours and then soak it in a healing bath of Epsom salts. That will draw out the bruising and hopefully that is all it is. I watched my calf bend around a tree the wrong way, and was sure it was broke off at the boot-top, but after a month of rehab, and watching my leg turn every color under the rainbow, I was able to walk again, and rode later that year, and I'm sure I broke something, I just didn't have the scratch to see the pro's...it was nearly 2 years before I got on the hard-boots again though, but that was by choice... So get healed, and keep the alcohol intake down, as it promotes swelling and reduces the body's ability to heal...and maybe I'll see you at Bach, when is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Severe sprain - check. Broke my boot shell while I was at it. I thought for sure I had broken it at the time, it hurt like hell. In 1991 at Copper. Nearly turned my foot all the way around in a Flexon Comp.Broke the cuff right down the back seam.Pain was enough to make me throw up right there under the lift:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorris Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 In hard boots. Un hooked the rear binding because it hurt like crazy. Then I treid to step in again but it hurt too much. It turned out to be a broken medial malleolus, the inside of the ankle. I am in a hard cast and it comes off on March 2nd. The doc said two weeks of PT. It has pretty much stopped hurting. The first couple of days to a week it really helped to keep it up as high as possible to stop the swelling. If its broken, caffeine and nicotine slow healing by constricting blood vessels. I was told to take 800 mg of Ibuprofen every 6 hours to reduce swelling. If you can you should get it looked at. How is it feeling now? Also look at this thread: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6311 Feel better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 and cigs at the same time? Bummer:) Hope it heals well otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorris Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I figured that the stress from a complete cold turkey withdrawal might do harm (if not to me, then to those around me!) Hoping to be back on a board in three weeks. I have two new (to me) boards since the break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoetrencher Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 1) one of each 2)hard cast for 6-8 weeks is all 3)Both end of the season deals but I was crutchless in a coupla months, 80% in 3-4 months and all better in maybe 8. Honestly a spiral heals stronger than before the break. My first break I was in my late 20's and I bounced right back. The second time in my late 30's left me with a little loss of motion in the ankle, be sure to do the PT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 If you got the coverage, check it...if not, keep off it, ice it for the 1st 48/72hours and then soak it in a healing bath of Epsom salts. That will draw out the bruising and hopefully that is all it is. I watched my calf bend around a tree the wrong way, and was sure it was broke off at the boot-top, but after a month of rehab, and watching my leg turn every color under the rainbow, I was able to walk again, and rode later that year, and I'm sure I broke something, I just didn't have the scratch to see the pro's...it was nearly 2 years before I got on the hard-boots again though, but that was by choice...So get healed, and keep the alcohol intake down, as it promotes swelling and reduces the body's ability to heal...and maybe I'll see you at Bach, when is it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: Ok, I will ice it for 72hrs, I have had it almost frozen since 2pm. I am going to Bach regardless, I will be a camera man for anyone who wants to be on Youtube if nothing else.;) I will take Your advice and stop the beer, well how about a 1 week hiatus because my Douoble IPA home brew will be ready to de-cap and taste by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorris Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 At least until you stop taking anything with Codine! Not too good with large doses of Ibuprofen either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 In hard boots. Un hooked the rear binding because it hurt like crazy. Then I treid to step in again but it hurt too much. It turned out to be a broken medial malleolus, the inside of the ankle. I am in a hard cast and it comes off on March 2nd. The doc said two weeks of PT. It has pretty much stopped hurting. The first couple of days to a week it really helped to keep it up as high as possible to stop the swelling. If its broken, caffeine and nicotine slow healing by constricting blood vessels. I was told to take 800 mg of Ibuprofen every 6 hours to reduce swelling. If you can you should get it looked at. How is it feeling now? Also look at this thread: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=6311 Feel better! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: Thank You too for the real life advice, so You and I are now left to only riding the "message" boards too , lol ;). I don't smoke and I'm not much for coffee ( unless it's Kona or Kauai pea berry, ground 1 cup @ a time ) and I cant afford that very often. See StarBucks reaction > No can do on the Ibuprofen because I literally eat a hole in my stomach last year from dealing with my "lady friends" female illogical retorts and mood based mind games ( See pissed off un-happy face > = Steve> lol. ( no dis on the ladies here ) this was "my" problem by not dealing with her with patients and firm understanding, so I gave myself an ulcer ( way to go Steve , thank me thank me very much , lol ) I feel fine so long as I don't move, lol, I know that doesn't say much but there was zero swelling, I mean none at all, so I hope I am just a sissy with a sprain , I will take that over a tuff guy with a fracture any day , lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 In 1991 at Copper. Nearly turned my foot all the way around in a Flexon Comp.Broke the cuff right down the back seam.Pain was enough to make me throw up right there under the lift:0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: "Flexon Comp" what is that, if that ain't a binding then its a torture technique or an Olympic ski jump trick . lol . I'm good at not puking "unless" I am on a diesel fishing boat , what with exhaust fumes , the constant engine vibration, the rolling swell, the smell of bacon from the galley, cheep cigars, & rotting fish>>> .>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 1) one of each2)hard cast for 6-8 weeks is all 3)Both end of the season deals but I was crutchless in a coupla months, 80% in 3-4 months and all better in maybe 8. Honestly a spiral heals stronger than before the break. My first break I was in my late 20's and I bounced right back. The second time in my late 30's left me with a little loss of motion in the ankle, be sure to do the PT! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will be sure to ask you about PT when I can gimp around, thank You for the reply to my questions.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorris Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 --------------------------------------------------------------------------I hope I am just a sissy with a sprain That is exactly what I was thinking on the sled ride down to the ski patrol hut! I hope that's all you have! This cast really sucks! Really inconvenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 That is exactly what I was thinking on the sled ride down to the ski patrol hut!I hope that's all you have! This cast really sucks! Really inconvenient. add--------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: That's a nice family You got there, Momma board, Daddy board, baby board and uncle crutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbass Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Sorry to hear about the break Steve. Let it heal and come back charging! I broke my ankle in hard boots years and years ago at Nakiska at a race. I was doing some carving between my runs on an unfamiliar trail. i was in the middle of a carve and the hill had a sudden steep drop. i lost contact with the ground and flew through the air sideways, tumbled a bit and ended up in some trees with a broken ankle, broken binding and cuts on my face and arm. it can be done. In fact, if something clumsy and painful can be done I have probably done it! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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