nekdut Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Anyone use one of these? Pros/Cons/Opinions? Seems like it would make things easier, especially with the season starting (in 2 days possibly!!), and many boards/skis to tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I bought one last season and I love it. It saves me tons of time in the evening when I'm waxing boards. One tip I picked up this summer. Brushing can put static electricity into your base. Prevent this by squirting a little water on the base before brushing. I use a variable speed cordless drill at low speed to run it. Someone here emailed me asking what brush I bought and where. I got it from Tognar and it is model TOK-2549. You can find it Here. You'll need the handle also (on same page). I also noticed that either Race Place or Race Werks (both catalogs arrived this week) carry them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Hey Randy, Are you using it with a cordless drill? I noticed that most cordless drills top out at 1000-1500 rpm., but its recommended to rotobrush at 2500rpm. Do you only use the rotobrush to do the final brushing, after hotwaxing and scraping? Have you tried using it for corking/fibertexing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy S. Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Originally posted by nekdut Hey Randy, Are you using it with a cordless drill? I noticed that most cordless drills top out at 1000-1500 rpm., but its recommended to rotobrush at 2500rpm. Do you only use the rotobrush to do the final brushing, after hotwaxing and scraping? Have you tried using it for corking/fibertexing? I don't understand that rpm suggestion really. Can you make your hand brush go that fast? I dont' think so. That said, I did buy the most powerful cordless I could find (big honking dewalt thingy). I don't run it at full speed, but maybe I should. I only have the one brush now, so I mostly use it for final polishing after scraping. It brushes the wax out so I get down to the structure. I haven't gotten a cork for it and fibertex seems like overkill to me. I like the KISS principle for waxing. That's why I got the roto, to make it faster and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffh Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 maybe I'm missing something but it seems to me that the rotobrush is overkill. what's the big deal of brushing a board by hand - it's is not difficult and it doesn't take long waste of money in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skidoc Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 On the World Cup I used only a fine antistatic horsehair brush designed by Toko. This was only used after I had hand brushed out all of the wax with a bronze/horsehair oval brush, combined with frequent light scrapes of the "lifted" wax. Hand brushing allows for better "lifting" of the wax from pronounced structures. This is extremely important from a "speed" standpoint when attaining speeds of 60-80 mph is important. Rotobrushes employed with high rpm combined with too much pressure will only "redeposit" the wax you're trying to remove. However, unless your actually getting out there with victory in mind, it will not adversely effect your performance. The idea is to remove enough wax so it does not mute the performance from edge to edge. Roto's used with light pressure and moderate rpm, should do a satisfactory job of removing wax from your base structure. Use a brass/horsehair initially, then follow up with a horshair. If that's too many brushes, simply use a stiff nylon, which allows for good removal and finish of your wax job. Whatever method one chooses, the goal is too remove any wax that one can see standing on the base, as that is what will ultimately effect your performance with regards to the wax process. Skidoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Bringing this one up from the dead. Pros and cons of standard width rotobrushes vs the snowboard specific wide ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Con: too much effort. Keep it simple, Ray's Way "Wax Wiazrd" available from www.alpineskituning.com or Tognars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 Thanks, Pat. I meant pros and cons between the two widths, not the rotobrush vs other methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drschwartz Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 We use a snowboard width rotobrush on the hill for final pre-race prep for my high school race team. Works much better than ski width brushes. Works great after corking in the top wax layer, heats the base a bit and blends the waxes really well. Also quite a bit faster than trying to hand brush 12-15 boards right before race start. I typically encourage hand brushing when in the weekly wax room session just so the kids learn the proper waxing techniques, but if we have a lot of boards to do the night before a race we will use the rotobrush as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Thanks- good feedback. Is the preference in width due to ease of use (number of passes) or based on the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drschwartz Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Width preference is simply due to number of passes needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I use a wide roto Nylon brush with a makita cordless...and it saves my life every autumn when I'm getting all the gear ready 8 pairs of skiis ( kids and wife) and 6 snowboards at least.. Used to took ages by hand, now I get a pretty good job with the roto. As said it is not a good for fine tuned structuring compare to the hand, but for normal use ( EC, freeride) its great! Nils 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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