TDSI Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Hi, anyone has experince in the extreme series with Vectran? If so, how does it ride? And anyone knows how much they go for? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbo Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 vectran??? What is that? kr:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 vectran??? What is that?kr:confused: Here is the website..... http://www.vectranfiber.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I've been on a shorter 160 Extreme Virus Vectran and an Extreme 170 Zylon. The Vectran had more snap to it and was significantly stiffer. It basically compared to a Madd 158 with an F3 flex, actually it was stiffer than the 58:eek: If you can afford the upgrade to the Zylon I'd recommend it, the board will be less temperamental and ride smoother. Ray is the Virus expert so I'd wait for him to chime in, I'd go off of his recommendation over mine for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogokoenig Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I've been on a shorter 160 Extreme Virus Vectran and an Extreme 170 Zylon. The Vectran had more snap to it and was significantly stiffer. .... Snap and stiffness are not only determined by the fibre. It is more due ti the core and its construction. Vectran is a fibre material that dos not provide the same performance than zylon does. Zylon has the ability to react more in a smooth way. Copleteleky the opposite of carbon. Vectran is something in between. You can have a very soft board witg no preload and no no snap and with a lot of zylon in it. The board provides a very smooth and forgiving "you can do whatever you want" ride. Vectran is just an attempt to achieve this state. Imagine you have a very snappy reactuve board with a strong core. Then put Zylon on Top of it. You'll have an sm-queen in the night, standing in your kitchen during the days. Frank still says: If Zylon wasn't that expensive I would put it in every board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 ..sm-queen? Do you mean that this board would enjoy spanking ME? Or that it has bindings for both feet AND my arms?? Comes with an accessory ball harness? Has a penchant for leather (maybe it's topsheet?)? Shooot, I don't know. Maybe you could elaborate..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 You'll have an sm-queen in the night, standing in your kitchen during the days. :D :D :D Like that old saying: "Ideal women should be a whore in the bed, shef in the kitched and a lady on the street. You know that you did everything wrong when your wife is a whore on the street, a lady in the kitche and a cook in the bed..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDSI Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 thx for the info, i thought Vectran would cost more and an upgrade from zylon. How much do they go for btw? Does anyone here like Vectran more than the zylon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Snap and stiffness are not only determined by the fibre. It is more due ti the core and its construction. Agree, I guess the key difference for me was that the Zylon board was just a smoother rider all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias112 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Snap and stiffness are not only determined by the fibre. It is more due ti the core and its construction.Vectran is a fibre material that dos not provide the same performance than zylon does. Zylon has the ability to react more in a smooth way. Copleteleky the opposite of carbon. Vectran is something in between. You can have a very soft board witg no preload and no no snap and with a lot of zylon in it. The board provides a very smooth and forgiving "you can do whatever you want" ride. Vectran is just an attempt to achieve this state. Imagine you have a very snappy reactuve board with a strong core. Then put Zylon on Top of it. You'll have an sm-queen in the night, standing in your kitchen during the days. Frank still says: If Zylon wasn't that expensive I would put it in every board. Carbon has 4 times faster reaction than glassfiber so if you want a smooth nonsnappy board you could just choose glassfiber. Aluminum and Titanal(which actually is aluminim whit some Ti (and some others) atoms in it) is right in between, 2 times faster than glass, but a little heavier. By combining these materials you could get the same board. But you would need to know a lot on how to combine them:) I really like carbon boards best. Just because they are more fun! Perhaps they dont make me the best rider in difficult conditions but I do have fun!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Carbon has 4 times faster reaction than glassfiber so if you want a smooth nonsnappy board you could just choose glassfiber. Aluminum and Titanal(which actually is aluminim whit some Ti (and some others) atoms in it) is right in between, 2 times faster than glass, but a little heavier. By combining these materials you could get the same board. But you would need to know a lot on how to combine them:)I really like carbon boards best. Just because they are more fun! Perhaps they dont make me the best rider in difficult conditions but I do have fun!!!! WOW:eek: TITANAL has ZERO titanium in it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Carbon has 4 times faster reaction than glassfiber so if you want a smooth nonsnappy board you could just choose glassfiber. Aluminum and Titanal(which actually is aluminim whit some Ti (and some others) atoms in it) is right in between, 2 times faster than glass, but a little heavier. By combining these materials you could get the same board. But you would need to know a lot on how to combine them:)I really like carbon boards best. Just because they are more fun! Perhaps they dont make me the best rider in difficult conditions but I do have fun!!!! maybe there is a language barrier here, but smooth / nonsnappy is the feel of Metal, not fiberglass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well I rode my Virus Gladiator tonight @ Mohawk. That has zylon on the inside and carbon topsheet. All I have to say is: :1luvu: :1luvu: I wonder if the board builders are experimenting with different types of titanal sheets. ei: titanium, aluminum, gold, silver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well I rode my Virus Gladiator tonight @ Mohawk.That has zylon on the inside and carbon topsheet. All I have to say is: :1luvu: :1luvu: I wonder if the board builders are experimenting with different types of titanal sheets. ei: titanium, aluminum, gold, silver... "different types of titanal"? Huh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Titanal is basically a metal dampening layer, right? So, do you think the board builders have tried different metals to see how it effects board performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias112 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think there is a bit left to learn about metalsheets in boards. Thera are also different kinds of titanal, (or some even use ordinary aluminium but label it as titanal because it sounds better). Metal acts as a damper but not beacuse it reacts slower but beacuse it is heavier and has different bend caracteristics. For sure a metal layer can enhance egdegrip but we all prefer a different feel in our boards. I rode a two year old Zylon and really liked the feel of it. But I have yet to try a titanal board that I like the feel of. I think a thin layer of steel would make for an nice ride, because of flex caracteristics of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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