BadBrad Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 On Madd's website, if you go to the shop link (http://www.madd1.com/Shop1.html) there are listings for an Alp 158 or 170 TC. I can't find anything on their site that says what TC is. The Technology link describes the R/CB but not the TC. Is this a new titanal option? Also listed is a 170w. I'm assuming this means wide. Anyone have the specs on this? Any recommendations for a 165 lb. east coast rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Here is the thread that describes the new boards. http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=17642&highlight=madd As for a recommendation, someone else is going to have to hit that one. Oh, and I believe TC is for Titanal/Carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 On Madd's website, if you go to the shop link (http://www.madd1.com/Shop1.html)there are listings for an Alp 158 or 170 TC. I can't find anything on their site that says what TC is. The Technology link describes the R/CB but not the TC. Is this a new titanal option? Also listed is a 170w. I'm assuming this means wide. Anyone have the specs on this? Any recommendations for a 165 lb. east coast rider? TC = titanal carbon w = wide = 21cm waist (stock is 18cm I believe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Dave and I have both been playing with the metal madds. I have to say the metal boards are a step up. Madd is using a layer of metal inside the board. It is clearly visable from the sidewall. Although some of the shapes we have are just prototypes they ride great and would benifit any rider. I have really been having fun on the Metal boarder cross shape with some nideckers and palmer lifters. The other day in the lift line I had a old ski race coach friend comment that he had only ever seen guys with hardboots rail turns like I was and want to know why people would ride hardboots when the set up I was riding seemed to carve just fine. I tryed to tell him with hardboots I could make way more power and ride 10 times harder, he said He saw no reason anyone would need to carve more aggresivly then I was. We rode up the chair together then I spanked him on the nastar course in soft boots, even got a platnium. The Madd BX has to be one of the best BX board I have ridden that doesn't say Kessler on it. I am not sure what Mike is calling what this year but I do know its the best Batches of Madds Dave and I have ridden so far. Thank you Metal!!! I would consider the wide if you have large feet or like lower angles. The shapes appear to be close to the previous models. At you weight you should have no problem bending any of the softer metal boards. Good luck, we have a bunch of madds in stock for demo if you find your way to UT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 TC = titanal carbonw = wide = 21cm waist (stock is 18cm I believe) Tex I got your e-mail but have been with out a computer for a bit. I'll e-mail you my phone number and am happy to answer any questions you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'd love to demo them, but unfortunately I won't make it to UT. I will be at SES, though. For width, 19-20cm seems to be the sweet spot for me. I have a 21.5cm board but prefer my 19 and 20cm boards, which give me angles in the 55-60 degree range. 18cm seems awfully narrow, though. Too bad that with a Madd I have to choose 18 or 21 when something right in between would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Brad, with my metal boards it seems like they feel narrower, allot of other riders have said similar things. You might fall in love with the wide 170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Brad, with my metal boards it seems like they feel narrower, allot of other riders have said similar things.You might fall in love with the wide 170 torsional stiffness, due to metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 They have a 30 day return policy. All you would be out is some shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Are the TC boards available in different stiffnesses like their regular alpine boards? They don't list any. If not, what weight range are they designed for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 All the metal boards we have seen only have one flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 All the metal boards we have seen only have one flex. And how does that compare to their f2 flex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Like all metal boards the madds are easy to bend but hold a sick shape when decambered. Becuase the metal is inside the madds and doesnt go tip to tail, the board still has a lot of snap, while still being damp. Its a great ride. And may be the answer for the recrational rider. I am pretty sure the metal is a butterfly rotored into the core but am not sure unless I cut one open. The boards are made with carbon instead of glass also. I haven't ridden the f2 back to back with the metal so I can't tell you if the flex the same but the metal board hold a better edge then and madd I have ridden before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I can't tell you if the flex the same but the metal board hold a better edge then and madd I have ridden before. That's saying a lot, since Madds are already known for phenomenal edge hold. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar(angel Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Can you contact me please? I have a question I'd like your help with, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I actually stole a few rides on the 158 and 170 Madd Metals earlier this season. The grippiness was sick, there was a good amount of rebound. Both the boards I rode were the traditional; ~18 cm width. The 170 was definitely better than any Madd 170 I had been on before, I'd be very interested in trying the wider version as I have lost my taste for 18 cm waists. The 158, was a blast too but I really felt that it was too soft for me at 190+ pounds, hopefully the Madd crew will do F1/F2/F3 flexes in the metal as well soon. I also wanted it to to about 2 cm wider, as I said I have lost my taste for 18 cm decks and especially in the shorter lengths. If a wider, stiffer 158 were to come out I'd consider buying one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Are there any photos of the 170 wide that someone can post or link to? Any full-length photos of any of the metal boards? I've only seen just the nose, and I really liked the look of the carbon top with a simple Madd decal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 The metal madds were first mentioned back in November and this thread is over 3 weeks old without much activity. There hasn't been much talk about these boards other than the first impressions & initial hype with some riding demo prototypes. Anyone own a 170TC with a lot of days on it this season? Long-term impressions or reviews??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I've put a handful of days on a prototype 170TC over the last few weeks. Edge grip is certainly higher and it seems to love the steeps even more. This board has HUGE Virus-like camber, over 1.5" and it is noticeably forward loaded. It does not feel like you can overpower the nose. I some times was able to do so on my standard carbon 170. I know that there aren't specific stiffness ratings for the TCs yet, but it does feel a little bit stiffer than an F2 flex in carbon. The metal adds the characteristics that everyone talks about. You see ruts, crud, used up slopes, but you don't end up feeling as much of it. Your legs will last much much longer through the day. This board is definitely damper than the carbon 170 and does not bang fast twitch turns out as fast. It will rail high speed carves through semi-crud with no drama at all and on the steeps, it tightens up real well. In my opinion, TC is a great option as it does make a significant difference in how your legs feel and how quiet things are overall, even though there is a little bit lost in that fast twitch snappiness that Madds are known for. I'll get a lot more days in on this board in the next few weeks and will update this post. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Thanks for the quick post and comparison. Is your proto an 18 or 21 width? I've been riding a carbon 170 for the past month and i'm totally obsessed with it. More grip with the metal must be an unbelievable ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I'm riding an 18cm wide 170 TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 On Madd's website, if you go to the shop link (http://www.madd1.com/Shop1.html)there are listings for an Alp 158 or 170 TC. I can't find anything on their site that says what TC is. The Technology link describes the R/CB but not the TC. Is this a new titanal option? Also listed is a 170w. I'm assuming this means wide. Anyone have the specs on this? Any recommendations for a 165 lb. east coast rider? TC=Titanal Carbon W=21cm For your weight go with a F1 flex Talk to Hardbooter.com they carry Madds and can help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 The metal madds were first mentioned back in November and this thread is over 3 weeks old without much activity. There hasn't been much talk about these boards other than the first impressions & initial hype with some riding demo prototypes. Anyone own a 170TC with a lot of days on it this season? Long-term impressions or reviews??? Even the protos have only been out for a few months. Production boards have only been on the shelf for a mounth or so. Its going to be hard to find one with some time on it. The new Madds are sick and going fast If any one would like one I would suggest they make it happen soon or they will all be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hey Bordy if they are available..then tell us what is available right now.. I would really like to see some descent, decent pictures of them all... So I can decide... If people have them... why no pictures... Someone has to have some good photos...right? Let see em... Show us your T....ss Titanal guys!!...get your mind out of the gutter!!:rolleyes: Pictures and availability said Shred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I'll see what I can do.. I have some in the basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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