Guest apocalypsem3 Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 In your opinion, between Catek Olympic and TD1, which one is more forgiving? Which is more responsive? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 just curious, but why should a binding be "forgiving" ? I would think that one would want a binding to be 100% precise. Let the dampening happen in the board (aside from built in cushioning in bindings?) but expect the binding to do exactly what you ask it to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 it comes down to canting and what you feel the need for I have had both and once both are dialed they ride prety darn close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 After running both bindings, As well as a the TD2 in a race course. I devoloped less chatter in the ruts on the catek. I am however running the short plate and looking for some Dampning. I am in a 26.0 Indy. D- Sub, dampning is the reason a binding should have some flex. Do some searches on older post you will find the answers you seek. The Cateks do seem to "break down quicker" were as I have had TD1s last almost a decade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by D-Sub just curious, but why should a binding be "forgiving" I would think that one would want a binding to be 100% precise. Let the dampening happen in the board (aside from built in cushioning in bindings?) but expect the binding to do exactly what you ask it to? My standard line is "depends on your application" I guess my best example is to grab the kid's PSII, throw in a road race or rally game and then see how each car (or truck) reacts to different shock/tire settings on different courses...."on" and "offroad". Same holds true in snowboarding.....sometimes you need rigidity, sometime you need flexibility. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 thanks for the clarifications, fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest apocalypsem3 Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 so, TD1 and TD2 is more rigid than catek with long plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Houghton Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 No, Catek short plate has more flex than TD, Catek long plate is WAAAAY stiffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karver Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 [TD2 is much more flexible than Catek with long plates. Your technique must be precise with Catek long plates. I don't know anything about Catek short plates since I have never tried ones.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 The TD2 has a feel like the long plate olympic. Only it seems more solid, not just in feel but also in response, The movement seems quicker. I have only ridden the Clip Catek long, Not the Intec. But I rode it back to back with the Short and some TD2s both Intecs. I felt the long Plates still had some give. There is more platform extended from the point of contact. It seems to have so flex. Plus thoose Damn Catek Screws just keep digging into that soft disk I am sure that adds some "Sqwish"? The TD2 seems to be more alive and dirrect but can be less forgiving when chatter kicks in. But the Differance between Clips and intecs is huge. It changes the flex of the boot by lowering the anchor point to the heel below the foot. I also twisted the hell out of my ankle in the Freerides! Beware! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 I have the '04 Catek Olympic long-plate and TD2, both with Intecs. TD2's have soft (yellow) e-rings. I find the TD2 rattles my shins and knees noticably less that the Cateks, using my Donek Axis 172 as a test board. On my Coiler I don't notice much of a difference. That board is so damp anyway. Too many freakin' variables... Intec vs clips, e-rings, long plates vs short, TD2 vs Catek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Yea Board makes a differance in Feel, I Rode them all on a Prior Built as Mark Fawcett's race deck. It is a smooth stick That needs lots of power from the rider. The bindings all feel very different to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest apocalypsem3 Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 it's so complicated. It seems like everyone has different opinions on these two plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Houghton Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Isn't that great, you can get either one and know you have the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zcarver Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Just asking since this topic is about the TD bindings. I just brought a pair of TD 1 with the 4 hole disc. I was wondering if anybody here have extra pair of the 3 hole and want to sell it? Or where I can find another pair. Please contact me. Thanks primecarver2@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronG Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Z- carver, I don't have the disks you are searching for but on my TD1s there are holes that are a bit larger that you can use to accomodate the different hole patterns. If yours aren't like this you should be able to take it to a machine shop and they will be able to accomplish this for you. Does anyone see a problem with doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zcarver Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Yeah oldvolvosrule, I was thinking about doing that. I do work at a machine shop and even have a aluminum wielder. Better yet I run a computerize router that can cut up to 3/4" thick aluminum. I might even fabricate a new pair. I do have a 3 hole disc set for my other TD 1. I can use that as a template. I can draw up the specs on the computer and cut it out. I can even do the inner depth cut for the screws. I figured just in case I buy another board that reguire the 4 hole. I have these. Thanks for the call.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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