DiveBomber Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 how did I ever ride one of these things??? Freeride boards suck. I just got on my FR/Soft boots, for one run last night. I hadent ridden it in quite a while... The whole set up just felt crappy. felt like I was riding on my bare feet. I had no confidence in edge hold, and the noise the board makes arghhh... And it feels like Im breaking my rear ankle. not to mention I feel slighly ashamed when on soft boots, for fear people wil take me as one of those matching pattern suit wearing dumbasses Quote
MUD Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 matching pattern suit wearing dumbasses You may think that. But if it wasn't for them, we would still be in the backcountry and in Minnesota, the hills ain't worth hiking. Quote
Guest sandarapark Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 but i still love my soft boot set up...maybe it's because of the kind of terain i love to ride on...i love ridding on muguls, powder, trees, rocks,ice, little kids and what not...a hard boot setup on this kind of terrain, at least for me, sucks every ounce of energy i have...but whenever the slopes are groomed, i do take out my alpine board... Quote
Recon Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 The Alpine board is always my first weapon of choice/ I mean I love it /ridding the hard pack on my free ride boards is well/ anticlimactic ! However you let a good dump of powder Fall & you will find me In the Back Country/ in the trees/ & through the glades Having a blast !!! Also at my home mountain Snowshoe W VA It gets crowded fast! I ride a carve board in the morning! on the Silver creek side/ then when all the party animals finally wake up Have there breakfast & find the slopes/ I switch to a free ride & go to the Snowshoe side! its just to crowded for carving/ to much kitty litter on the slopes(Children) don't want to hit one !!!!!!!! So I will always have room for both/ but my first luv------Alpine! Quote
sheffy Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 how did I ever ride one of these things??? Freeride boards suck.I just got on my FR/Soft boots, for one run last night. I hadent ridden it in quite a while... The whole set up just felt crappy. felt like I was riding on my bare feet. I had no confidence in edge hold, and the noise the board makes arghhh... And it feels like Im breaking my rear ankle. not to mention I feel slighly ashamed when on soft boots, for fear people wil take me as one of those matching pattern suit wearing dumbasses Freeride boards suck????? .... Soft setups rule in the powder...... #1 choice.....no edge hold needed Quote
DiveBomber Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Posted January 21, 2007 Freeride boards suck????? .... Soft setups rule in the powder...... #1 choice.....no edge hold needed thats about it. Im talking resort slopes hard pack. but its more the boards than the bindings. But then again arent a number of people here using here boots in powder? (with powder boards that is) Quote
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 [lovemaster]All hard, all the time baby.[/lovemaster] Quote
willywhit Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 thats about it. Im talking resort slopes hard pack.but its more the boards than the bindings. But then again arent a number of people here using hear boots in powder? (with powder boards that is) I should just ignore your ignorance, DiveBummer.... if you be hatin' on jibbers, how do you expect anyone to show the love for alpine ?works both ways. I have tremendous respect for soft boot riders that rip, it's not all just the wanna be park monkeys. I don't even OWN a softie setup anymore but I'm looking at getting one for those deep powder days out west. I likes the looks of bob dea's new catek binders and some stiffy soft boots, maybe some BOA stuff or Flows with the cables. Did you take a look at the link of the photog, Rusty White, that just passed away behind the wheel? There's a whole culture based on skating that exists and it's not a BAD thang. We're just more into the ski racing school of riding, IMHO.It's all good, brother. The people that irk ME are the ones who judge others thinking they're NOT LIKE US, they suck. grow up, divebummer Quote
Derf Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 I'm with BiveBomber on this one (at least from what I understand between the line). If I understand him correctly, he hates HIS soft boot setup (so do I, that's why mine is on loan) and the attitude of lots of people who ride soft boots. Not all soft boot riders sit in the middle of the slope, all aligned, taking all the width, smoke on the chairlift, cut poeple off with no regard. But the snowboarders who do that, they ride softboots. So it's more about a certain demographics than about all the poeple riding soft boots. I don't have powder here, but I have an Alp for soft/loose snow days (like last Monday). Quote
MUD Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 But the snowboarders who do that, they ride softboots. So it's more about a certain demographics than about all the poeple riding soft boots. They are 99.9+% of the snowboarding population, it is hard for them not to be "the ones" doing it. Quote
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 They are 99.9+% of the snowboarding population, it is hard for them not to be "the ones" doing it. They are overwhelmingly teenage boys, not a demographic known for polite or well-reasoned behaviour. It isn't an inherent flaw in the equipment. Quote
MUD Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 They are overwhelmingly teenage boys, not a demographic known for polite or well-reasoned behaviour. It isn't an inherent flaw in the equipment. You got it! I was the same way (and I don't hate to admit it), even when I was on skis. Quote
Guest shrederjen Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 Perhaps, try a different setup. I still luv to ride my Palmer Titanium X, on hard, soft, or even cruddy snow. Carves great, jumps great, and floats enough when needed. Quote
Linus Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 but i still love my soft boot set up...maybe it's because of the kind of terain i love to ride on...i love ridding on muguls, powder, trees, rocks,ice, little kids and what not...a hard boot setup on this kind of terrain, at least for me, sucks every ounce of energy i have...but whenever the slopes are groomed, i do take out my alpine board... Damn.....Lee, Hyo ri looks hot in that avata..... Quote
Linus Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 how did I ever ride one of these things??? Freeride boards suck.I just got on my FR/Soft boots, for one run last night. I hadent ridden it in quite a while... The whole set up just felt crappy. felt like I was riding on my bare feet. I had no confidence in edge hold, and the noise the board makes arghhh... And it feels like Im breaking my rear ankle. not to mention I feel slighly ashamed when on soft boots, for fear people wil take me as one of those matching pattern suit wearing dumbasses If you can ride like Mr.Vin Q. I'm sure you will love your freeride setup. Not that I can ride like Mr. Vin Q. Quote
willywhit Posted January 21, 2007 Report Posted January 21, 2007 funny, Linus, I was gonna mention Vin Q as an example of a ripper carving in softies... thank god for punks...and punk rock....otherwise,we'd all still be on skis Quote
DiveBomber Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Posted January 22, 2007 Well I can carve on my soft boots,(actually they are not all that soft) Ive got what is supposed to be a pretty decent set up : Co2's/malamutes/Brtn Custom, But still doesnt hold a candle to the carving set up. Though im sure me riding from 10am to 9pm didnt help either, I think at the very least im going to need some cant plates. Guess im spoiled by the cateks. But I guess Average never was my style, and the jibber that was completely freaking out cause I was going up hill didnt help things . Sure there my be some good soft booters, but thats not the norm. Im just tired of people snowboarding purely because they think its cool. Which is where the teenage dumbasses come in. And I see where snowboarders get a bad wrap. thank god Im not one of those. But as for the board/boots, maybe its more the board but it feels like I'm riding on a sheet of paper, But it was starting to get pretty hard packed and icy, I think i just need a bigger, stiffer board. Quote
Guest sandarapark Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Im just tired of people snowboarding purely because they think its cool. Which is where the teenage dumbasses come in. wasn't this the reason why people started ridding snowboards years ago? bec it's "cool". and for the teenagers, well, give them a break. they're teenagers after all...they'll soon see the error of their ways. something i don't understand though is why there are people here who dislike softboot riders (just bec there was this softboot rider who cut u off years ago doesn't mean all soft booters are stupid...???) yes it's true that there are more jackasses who ride soft boots. but there are also jackasses who ride hardboots(all those flame wars). jackasses on softboots are much easier to spot bec there is a lot af them. but given the same no. of harboot riders and softboot riders, i bet there will be approximately the same no. of jackasses. Quote
wavechaser Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 ...given the same no. of harboot riders and softboot riders, i bet there will be approximately the same no. of jackasses. Great point...jackasses are jackasses - be they hardboot, softboot, black, white, asian, american, young, old, etc. etc....there are a certain percentage of them in the world and everywhere they go, and everything they do...they will be JACK ASSES. Quote
sheffy Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 wasn't this the reason why people started ridding snowboards years ago? bec it's "cool".and for the teenagers, well, give them a break. they're teenagers after all...they'll soon see the error of their ways. something i don't understand though is why there are people here who dislike softboot riders (just bec there was this softboot rider who cut u off years ago doesn't mean all soft booters are stupid...???) yes it's true that there are more jackasses who ride soft boots. but there are also jackasses who ride hardboots(all those flame wars). jackasses on softboots are much easier to spot bec there is a lot af them. but given the same no. of harboot riders and softboot riders, i bet there will be approximately the same no. of jackasses. Exactly Quote
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 wasn't this the reason why people started ridding snowboards years ago? bec it's "cool".and for the teenagers, well, give them a break. they're teenagers after all...they'll soon see the error of their ways. something i don't understand though is why there are people here who dislike softboot riders (just bec there was this softboot rider who cut u off years ago doesn't mean all soft booters are stupid...???) yes it's true that there are more jackasses who ride soft boots. but there are also jackasses who ride hardboots(all those flame wars). jackasses on softboots are much easier to spot bec there is a lot af them. but given the same no. of harboot riders and softboot riders, i bet there will be approximately the same no. of jackasses. I like this gal! Although I started because it looked like fun and made sense to me. That would be seeing the "Other" snowboarder at Mt Hood Meadows!!, back then I could go a day without seeing another snowboarder. In the mid 80s it was actually seen as "Dangerous" and "Foolish" by many. "How can you ride non-release bindings on one board?" Alpine snowboarding has allot of similarities. All of which I cherish. Like: Different, understood by few, tight brotherhood of passionate participants, way fun!! I like at gal that tells it straight and has good common sense. Good on ya!! If that is you in the Avatar? I am guessing I was riding my first board about the time you were learning to walk? Quote
Rob Stevens Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Whatever you DON'T ride always feels like s#!t. It's just desire that pushes you through to the point where it actually feels right. As for the ignorant youth (many are... some aren't)... fcuk 'em. Their punishment will be to inherit a planet we've sucked all the life out of. Talk about a kick in the ass. There are a few things that might make softboots more fun, though... First off, I would suggest that you put a bullet in those Burton CO2's. Those are some of the flexiest binders I've ever seen and not suited to someone who knows how to power. I'd recommend some Burton C60's, 32 TM2's and a proper freeride board... maybe not super-stiff lenghtwise, but tortionally stiff, for sure. Bob Dea has his Cat's, but they're pretty heavy and tall off the board. A big footed rider might like the rise, though. Ultimately, you may want to shed the binders altogether. Bryan... Nice ad... If you look closely, you can see Sims has dropped the rope. We continue the tradition at... Quote
pebu Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 I love my new hardboard. I can do things on that that I only dream of on a soft board. I can lean right down and not worry about my toes and heals catchin the snow and I can pull some gs on it. The hard boots transfer all my energy right into the snow so I can push into and out of each turn and snap my board around like it's nothing. I love my soft setup. I can do things on that that I only dream of on a hardboard. I can whip that around through trees and move my body and legs seperately in relation to the board. I can hit jumps and land softly. I can go over crud and not worry about my knees having to take all the crap. I can go backwards and forwards and sideways or any number of combinations of any of those. Besides preference, bottom line is they're built for two different things. You can do on one what the other was made for but probably not as well/comfortably/whatever. I like them both and I'm keepin both for two different reasons. Quote
jtslalom Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Divebomber, Sorry to hear your dissatisfaction with soft riding. I can totally agree with you in the fact that if you can't carve on a freeride deck, better stick to your hard deck. Those of us who actually can carve on anything really don't care either way. Quote
Przemek/Brooklyn Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Softboots is a license to suck. Dont get me wrong i have a lot of respect for kids who actually can jump, pipe or ride well. But unfortunatly most of the softborders SUCK, ride sideways scraping snow out of the mountain. I guess that why they switch from skiing, it does not matter if you ride sideways or skid turns you "cool" becouse you on the snowboard. LICENSE TO SUCK i have soft rig as well i use it for powder, forest and rocks. Quote
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