F2 Titanium bindings?

[zoltan]

I have the SnowPro Race LTD. bindings currently and have two issues with them:

1. Because it's not indexed and not very clearly marked, the angle setting is, at best, an estimate.

2. The rear bail has no stop on it to keep it from flipping back making getting my rear foot in much harder.

I'm currently looking at a pretty good deal for F2 Race Titanium bindings and wanted to see what people thought about them. I believe that their angle settings are indexed and their rear bail has a definite stop on it. The F2 does, however, use 5.5mm bails compared to the 6mm ones on the Snowpros. I'm happy with how the SnowPro bindings ride otherwise.

SnowPro Race LTD (except mine has the aluminum disc):

F2 Race Titanium:

[alexeyga]

If you're happy with SnowPros, you'll be REALLY happy with Ti-s.. Just make sure to flip the clip when you're skating towards and off the lift, it tends to dig into the snow....

[tpalka]

I had troubles with the heel bail as well, and made a tweak to mine -- read about it here: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=6204

Although some would say I weakened the bindings by drilling in them, so far it's holding as well as I made the mod. FWIW,

tom.

[Bobby Buggs]

I have been riding on F2s for 5 seasons now, Intecs but still they are Great. If you can get the Intec no way you will be disappointed. Im sure the non Intecs are good as well. A Fixed Heel bail is a Must for me, Im to old to be messing around with getting in.

[alexeyga]

+1 for Intecs... No going back to standards for me either...

[RDY_2_Carve]

I'm riding F2 Intec Titanflex this year. Before that all I had ridden was TD1's. They have more than exceeded my expectations. They also seem very well built and I don't have any fear of them failing.

Trying them on the Coiler this weekend unless we have another powder day.

[yyzcanuck]

...F2 Race Titanium bindings... I believe that their angle settings are indexed and their rear bail has a definite stop on it.

No, the angle is not "indexed" if you mean some sort of ridge or tooth to ensure exact stop position like a Burton. It has an infinetley adjustable centre disk. Again, at best, it's an estimate too because the centre disk has slots that allow plenty of clearance for the mounting screw to pass through.

Rear bail does have a stop to ensure positive engagement to the boot when getting in.

[Sinecure]

I used to have F2 Intecs. I bought them because they were cheaper than the alternative. After 1 season I realized there's a reason why Bomber commands a slightly higher price for their bindings. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. I now have 2 full sets of TD2 Step-ins, a spare mounting kit, plus a set of traditional bails in case I ever want to mount AT boots on them. Every time I look at the F2s on my powder board, I'm reminded of what a good investment the TDs are. Even more so when I go to switch them between boards (despite 3 mounting kits, I still need to switch sometimes).

I'd much rather give my money to Fin & Co. than some faceless Austrian-German company that makes it nearly impossible to get spare parts or support. Try getting in touch with F2 for parts and you'll see what I mean. Emails go unanswered and trying to call them is a joke. If someone other than F2 made Intec heels, I'd probably go out of my way to buy those too.

[zoltan]

No, the angle is not "indexed" if you mean some sort of ridge or tooth to ensure exact stop position like a Burton. It has an infinetley adjustable centre disk. Again, at best, it's an estimate too because the centre disk has slots that allow plenty of clearance for the mounting screw to pass through.

Rear bail does have a stop to ensure positive engagement to the boot when getting in.

Do you have a picture of F2's system by any chance? It might work for me still. With the SnowPro's it's so course that it's almost impossible to even tell if the front and rear binding are at the same angle.

[Neil Gendzwill]

The F2 system works fine. I've got an older system and the titanflex, both step-in, and haven't had a problem with them. Maybe the numbering isn't accurate, I don't know, but once you have them set right, they stay that way as the centre disk seals tight to the top part with a rubber gasket and it all comes off as a unit. There's no need to adjust the angle each time you take them off and put them on like Burton and others with the toothed disk.

[Hugh]

This is my first season on F2 Ti-standards. I got rid of all of my Intecs (2 pairs of X-Bones and 1 Catek Olympic). Now I have only the new F2-Ti and a new set of Catek Olympic standards.

After 3 days of riding the F2's with no canting and minimal toe/heel lift...I LOVE THEM!!!

If you can get them for a good deal, buy those bindings

out-

[philfell]

I give F2's my endorsement. They are not indexed for angle adjustment, but easily swap from board to board with out changing angles.

If you are constantly swaping bindings from board to board and have to change binding angles each time, then they may not be the best choice. But if you ride the same angles on each board or rarly swap bindings then get them with no hesitation.

[philw]

I also have ridden the F2 titaniums since they came out (1997 or something like that). I ride Intecs as I find they mate better with the boots; less play. I bought a second pair this year just in case F2 stop making them. They're great...

The newer plates are lighter than the originals. The disks are continuously variable, but you can of course change them and you don't need anything other than a standard screwdriver. They're simple and elegant.

I have had a look at the North American stuff, but they seem very complicated and heavy to me. My F2s sit there on the boards and perform brilliantly, day in, day out. I've never had any service or support issues... these things don't break, and there are no bits to fall off or lose.

[yyzcanuck]

I bought a second pair this year just in case F2 stop making them.

No worries about F2 getting out of this market. I recently received their 2007-2008 catalogs. For next season F2 will continue to separate the Race line of boards from the softboot stuff.

In addition to added focus on the marketing side of alpine, they will offer World Cup construction and shapes on the Speedster lineup in addition to their regular construction. WC appears to be more taper, more Titanal, more carbon sandwiched between rubber and less glass (no aluminum topsheet though). To go along with this WC line of boards will be their patented SFlex disk (elastomer riser plate) coupled with Race Titaniums, the "winningest" (is that a word?) binding on the WC.

So, take all those things and put them together and... I don't see F2 leaving anytime soon!

[philw]

Good news - thanks.

On the world cup stuff... that will be interesting. They're up against hte big "K" here of course. I don't want a full on race board for general piste use however, so the metal stuff may not be that relevant..

[Hugh]

My F2 Ti standard bindings are still working great, but I did notice on my last 2-day trip that the rear adjustment screws on both heels had loosened a little. On the mtn, I found that it took less tension to close the bails. Be sure to check binding screws/adjustments before riding.

--Hugh

[nils]

we're pretty happy with them fro EC purpose ( non intec), althought the price is a bit high when u think the molds and everything has been repaid zillions times since they are out... ;)

seeing how many guys use it in the WC must be a proof they are strong too..

I'm wondering why so few WC riders use cateks or TD2's btw...?

N.

[Blackbird]

I'm wondering why so few WC riders use cateks or TD2's btw...?

N.

From what I've read here and elsewhere I think it's cos' they're too good...

Stiff and very direct...in the way they transfer power!

Most racers like a bit of flex in the interface....

I love the flex in my bindings (Burton Race) but have never tried the TD2's or Cateks... But i will.....

[nils]

k makes sense.. this is also the reason why we like them... more flexibility is nice, and the light weight is also a good feature as well as the lower profile on the board.

N.

[zoltan]

Do the F2 bindings only use two screws each to secure the heel and toe blocks? Can anyone compare their ride to the SnowPro Races? I don't think I'd want anything flexier than what I have.

[alexeyga]

Believe us, you won't regret getting Ti-s over Snowpros... I'd switch just because of the rear bail not having stoppers... Reminds me that i still have a pair of old Snows laying around - a good candidate for a give-away thread...

[jlam]

I like the bindings too.

Does anyone know where to buy the parts for the F2 Race Titanium? like an extra pair of cant plates? or the lift?

Jim

[philw]

I haven't had to buy any, but Blue Tomato in Austria is where I get my stuff from, and they do stock and supply small parts (eg bits for boots etc), so they probably have some. Hang onto the plastic wedges and screws you don't use though... I switched from Rachlie to DeLuxe Indies a couple of years ago and needed to change my lift set-up slightly as a consequence. Fortunately I have a little bag with all the original bits in it taped to my snowboard bag, so that was no problem...

[Helmut Karvlow]

Jlam, I have extra cants for the ti's. I don't ride with cant. I will have to dig for them but I have 4 sets of ti's. let me know what you need and I'll look.

just cover shipping and you can have what parts I can find.