Guest crazyboarder Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I got this baron es last season and I can't ride it. its way to big for me. I got it because I hadnt been riding in 4 years so I asked the board salesman what he thought I shold ride and he put me on the wrong board. (who would have thought) I should have gone with my origional thoughts to get a custom x 160. owell. I need a race board. drop me an email if you have any interest in this deck. I only rode it a few times and Im only 165 lbs so I cant even flex the board so its like new. Quote
boostertwo Posted January 12, 2007 Report Posted January 12, 2007 You may get more responses if you enable your email. Are you looking to trade for a race board or just a straight-up sale? <img src="http://i18.tinypic.com/2s67spt.jpg" border="0" alt="Tree stash, Vail, CO"> Cheers, B-2 Quote
Guest mmcolorado Posted January 12, 2007 Report Posted January 12, 2007 Can you send me a pic or post one, very interested!! m.mcolorado@yahoo.com Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 I am looking to either trade for a race board or just straight up sell it. I paid 649 dollars for it last december, rode like 6 or 7 times, then rode by girlfriends custom 149 the rest of the season because I couldnt make it through the gates on the baron. the base plates obviously scratched the board a little bit, just the usual wear marks but there are no other scratches, board is nice looking, i will post a few pics soon. the shop I got it from(sunnybreeze) offered me 250 bucks for it on trade ( the bastards) so I want to trade with a person, not a sucubus! lol Quote
lonerider Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 I am looking to either trade for a race board or just straight up sell it. I paid 649 dollars for it last december, rode like 6 or 7 times, then rode by girlfriends custom 149 the rest of the season because I couldnt make it through the gates on the baron. the base plates obviously scratched the board a little bit, just the usual wear marks but there are no other scratches, board is nice looking, i will post a few pics soon. the shop I got it from(sunnybreeze) offered me 250 bucks for it on trade ( the bastards) so I want to trade with a person, not a sucubus! lolAre you still relatively new to snowboarding? It doesn't sound like it, but assuming that you are an experienced rider I don't see why you are having so much trouble with the board... I mean I don't see how at 165 lbs you would have an easier time running gates with a soft 149 cm board (maximum recommend weight of 125 lbs) with a tiny 7.3m SCR than an a 164 cm board with an 8.4m SCR (you are over the minimum recommended weight of 150 lbs). That's a 6 inch difference in effective edge there... which is what you need to go around those gates at a high speed while maintaining control.I mean if you are into racing, by all means get a race board... but I'm pretty sure something like my Madd 170 or Oxygen Proton 165GS is going to be stiffer than your Baron ES... so I'm wondering if you might need to work on your technique as well. Of course I could have no idea about what I'm talking about... Quote
Guest mmcolorado Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 Hey crazy, If we can make a deal on this board, consider it sold. When you get some pics let me know. Figure shipping to steamboat,CO. you can email at m.mcolorado@yahoo.com or call 970-624-1916. Later Quote
Guest mmcolorado Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 Hey crazy, Sorry gave wrongnumber 970-824-1916 Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 lone rider, there is always room for improvement, I will never say im on top of my game. However when I have my stance angled to my pref at 24 in the front and 22 in the back and I come into a turn hard the baron makes a long wide turn, then at thepoint where I release pressure to that edge the board doesnt pop out of the snow like a narrow board does for me, and land right into my next carve in the other direction. I was an instructor for 5 years and I focus on correct body position alot and maybee im screwing up somewhere, but for the most part I think im doing ok. I think if it wasnt a mostly skiing mountain and the gates I race are skiing gates with 2 long poles and massive ruts from skiers I would trust hat long turning ability of the baron. If th was doing boardercross id keep the baron its a great long turning board but it just wears me out too quick! anyway, if you read this MMCOLORADO I will post pics ASAP and call you as well. tj Quote
tex1230 Posted January 13, 2007 Report Posted January 13, 2007 I got this baron es last season and I can't ride it. its way to big for me. I got it because I hadnt been riding in 4 years so I asked the board salesman what he thought I shold ride and he put me on the wrong board. (who would have thought) I should have gone with my origional thoughts to get a custom x 160. owell. I need a race board. drop me an email if you have any interest in this deck. I only rode it a few times and Im only 165 lbs so I cant even flex the board so its like new. I am looking to either trade for a race board or just straight up sell it. I paid 649 dollars for it last december, rode like 6 or 7 times, then rode by girlfriends custom 149 the rest of the season because I couldnt make it through the gates on the baron. the base plates obviously scratched the board a little bit, just the usual wear marks but there are no other scratches, board is nice looking, i will post a few pics soon. the shop I got it from(sunnybreeze) offered me 250 bucks for it on trade ( the bastards) so I want to trade with a person, not a sucubus! lol lone rider, there is always room for improvement, I will never say im on top of my game. However when I have my stance angled to my pref at 24 in the front and 22 in the back and I come into a turn hard the baron makes a long wide turn, then at thepoint where I release pressure to that edge the board doesnt pop out of the snow like a narrow board does for me, and land right into my next carve in the other direction. I was an instructor for 5 years and I focus on correct body position alot and maybee im screwing up somewhere, but for the most part I think im doing ok. I think if it wasnt a mostly skiing mountain and the gates I race are skiing gates with 2 long poles and massive ruts from skiers I would trust hat long turning ability of the baron. If th was doing boardercross id keep the baron its a great long turning board but it just wears me out too quick! Is it just me or does this seem a little weird... A "former instructor" who 1)takes a shop salesman's advice on board length, 2)pays retail for a board, and 3)claims to be able to run gates on a 149 at 165lbs... Couple that with a new poster who makes no contribution to the community and comes here to sell a board that doesn't really interest probably 90% of us...I say you better be careful dealing with this guy. Quote
Derf Posted January 14, 2007 Report Posted January 14, 2007 Former ski instructor who started snowboarding? Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 14, 2007 Report Posted January 14, 2007 dude whats your deal. do you just hang around on this site to be a dick to people who are just trying to get themselves a board thats right for them. for one I went into the army for 4 years, I was stationed in ft bragg nc I was a friging grunt paratrooper and didnt have anytime to snowboard. when I got out and came home I figured the technology had changed so I asked the friggin sales guy and the shop what he recommended. he said because I have an 11 boot I should ride a wide board. so what dude. its not like im scamming stolen **** on ebay here. im just trying to get a better board for what I need. So if you have no interest then go into a different thread dick. Quote
Guest mmcolorado Posted January 15, 2007 Report Posted January 15, 2007 Hey crazy, I'm still interested in your board. I have to go to Wyoming on Monday will be back Wed. I'll see if you're around when I get back or check my email from WY. m.mcolorado@yahoo.com Mattman Quote
tex1230 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Posted January 15, 2007 Not trying to be a jerk. just there is a history of questionable people jumping on various forums - first post is to sell a board? not a carving board? on a carving website? you see where I'm going here... There are more than a few forums I know of who won't allow you to post anything for sale until you've posted at least a few useful comments. If you're legit, fine. hang around. have some discussions. contribute something. don't use our community as a dumping ground for your useless stuff. Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 15, 2007 Report Posted January 15, 2007 I understand where your coming from, I just never have been into posting in forums. Its irritating. People think they know everything and get into all these specifics about this or that small angle of knee bend or whatnot and so forth. I looked through the forums for stuff I might be able to help with but there really snt anything in there. I have never road a race board before, all my friends say I need one because of the way I ride, I like to lay my deck over and dig massive trenches like you alpine boarders, but what advise or tips could I help in? Unless you guys wanna know how to do grounds tricks, wich cant be done on a race board, like spinning around on the tail while still going down the trail. Quote
Guest firechefs Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 Crazy boarder you have no problem telling people what you think. So tell me what you think. Or for that matter any one on this site. Im 37, I use to ski the pro am mogel tour in the North East many years ago. I'm to old and slow to ski the way I did and the mountains wern't fun any more. The day I straped on a board to show my teenager that I could on a dare, I haven't looked back. I Love it the mountains are fun again . I now have a Fat Bob 155 great learner board or rock board now it seems. I just put some K2 formula bindings on itthat are great transfer of my solomn hard plastic boots. I need the next step up need a biger board. Im 6'2" 225lbs, board the whole mountain but not a GS speed freek yet stay faster than most on the mountain ( have a fear of my blind spot , got hit hard from behing a few years ago). Just looking on line on reviews Canyon by Burton 163-170 for New Engald boarding only? Any sugestions. Brian Quote
Jack M Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 Tex, no need to ass-u-me like that. Crazyboarder, welcome, hope you find a way to participate and enjoy the forums. Just keep the language non-military. ;) Quote
willywhit Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 Crazyboarder, enable your email or just shoot me one. Where do you sell bikes in Maine ?? I might have a good board to get you into alpine. Same for you firechefs, we'll get you guys sorted out. Quote
Guest firechefs Posted January 16, 2007 Report Posted January 16, 2007 Afraid this site may be a spam genorator will enable . Brian Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Brian, you need a bigger board huh, well judging by your size and the fact that you already had a wide board before you should probably be riding a Baron Es (lol) seriously though the one I have is a 164 and it has great super sidecut its wide and has the dragonfly core of the custom x. burton claims it is just a wide version of the custom x wich is a great all mountain board. If you are looking for an alpine board I have no idea. but sounds to me like you need a big wide board and the baron ES is the best one burton makes as far as im concerned. I just cant ride it for reasons I have already stated. I borrowed a buddies rippey 156 yesterday and rode at sunday river and it was soooo fun. I was carving some sweet groomer tracks bust a few times my heels kicked me out :( so im still looking for the right board too. hope I might have helped. Quote
Guest ciskoboarder Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 You are headed in the right direction if you wish to ride with both positive high angles for your stance. The equipment and teaching has changed very quickly of the last few years. A few years ago I witnessed instructors teaching hand position on ether side of the board. One toe side the other heel side. Today we are teaching one hand over the nose the other over the tail. Keep in mind I am talking for most soft boot set ups here. This works well with today’s Boards and bindings. By using a more neutral stance say 9 degree for the front foot, and 0 or even negative 3-6 degrees on the rear foot this will give you better leverage to get the board on edge. This is wear the need for wide boards came from if you could imagine your eleven boots on that custom 149 with a stance of pos9 front and neg3 for the rear. It just would not work. Now imagine it on the baron es. A lot less toe/heel drag. The key to carving clean turns is even weight distribution over your edge. If you compare the high positive angle stance to the neutral stance, The major difference is the twist in the ankle/knees/waste (positive stance), verse head/neck (neutral stance). It is easier to get even edge pressure with a neutral stance and allows for more leverage from your high back and straps. I hope this makes some sense to you and maybe helps you understand why the shop selected the baron for you. It seems to me the shop did not no your preferred stance. Now if you are talking alpine, there are advantages to using the hard boots and positive angles. However it requires different body mechanics. The goal is even edge pressure. You should stand facing the nose of the board with one hand on ether side of the board. When making a turn your body should not twist. You should bring your weight straight over the edge without any twisting. The movement is side to side verses front to back for the soft boot binding setup. It sounds like you will benefit from hard boots and an alpine setup. You won't find a quicker transition from edge to edge than a narrow waste alpine board. As for the soft boots I think if try a more neutral stance and modify your body mechanics you will also benefit. These are just my thoughts from what I personally learned over the years. I felt some one might find this useful. Good luck with everything you do. Quote
tex1230 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 this thread is giving me a headache...ever heard of spellcheck? Quote
Guest firechefs Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Make sense at about 80% of it. I was working on keeping my upper body neutral and "swinging" my legs in and out as I carve a steep fall line. My last learning curve before that has to transfer my weight up and down to "push" a clean carve just like old school skiers used to teach. . As far as stance I'm at 0 in the rear foot and was recommended to pull that past 0 as you said. Question alpine what is that referring too, All mountain not the pipes and bowls?? I use the hard boot and regular foot. At 37 I'm avoiding air so I can go back to work (don't bounce like I used too), having fun at the edge of the mogul fields and keep the board off the parks. Looks like the Baron may be the one???? Thanks ciskoboarder Quote
Guest firechefs Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Looks like MMcolorodo has 1st refusal on this thread he was looking 1st. If not interested give me a line and a price. Hope there is a a paratrooper discount, keep off that 5th point of contact. Brian <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> Quote
Guest crazyboarder Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Thanks for the tips. I will keep all that in mind. I am going riding this weekend and I will try that body positioning stuff. thanks man. Quote
tex1230 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 apologies again to crazyboarder for the harsh comments. cisko/fire/crazy you all may want to be asking and discussing technique and gear in the main forum. a "for sale" thread won't get much commentary from the forum as not many of us look in these. There is a wealth of knowledge shared among the users of this site and I'm sure we can collectively answer just about any snowboard related question you can ask. (of course you'll get ten different opinions on everything, but that's the beauty of the internet) hey, at least crazy if getting free bumps out of this. :D Quote
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