Guest Platu Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I finally made it a priority to get a carving setup before the snow fell this season. I have managed to obtain two boards: 1 Renn Tiger 178 1 Burton Ultra Prime 162 I am 6’1 and weigh approx. 220 lbs. I ride a Burton Custom 169 when in soft boots and I have trouble with the nose washing out when I try to carve with it. I am wondering if the Ultra Prime is too short for me. Most of the riding that I do is in Michigan. I am seeking input from those with experience. Also, will freeride boots, such as the Garmont Endorphin will work with a hard boot setup, or if it best to try to find a set of hardboots designed specifically for snowboarding. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derf Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I never rode AT boots, but some here do, so I think you should be OK with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackDan Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, The 162 is too small for you. You'll fold that nose like wet cardboard. Stick to the 178 and learn how to ride it. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 If you ride on crowded or semi-crowded slopes I would not suggest riding the 178 your first time out on plates. But that's just me... I'd try to break that 162 in half the first couple days then move on to the big boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 1) Widen your stance on the Custom 2) It's not too short, it's too soft/flexy 3) Not ideal and a good way to ruin them. Buy some hardboots from Fin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonerider Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 1 Burton Ultra Prime 162 I am wondering if the Ultra Prime is too short for me. Too soft, I'm 5'9" 150 lbs and I found the 162 to be pretty soft, I think you will find that it will be overwhelmed by your weight and wash out of carves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, The 162 is too small for you. You'll fold that nose like wet cardboard. Stick to the 178 and learn how to ride it. Good luck. What?? Im 6'0" 240# and I ride a 164 Factory Prime...With proper technique you can ride even shorter boards, Im just not that good :( . I would say get used to the carve on the longer board, then go to the 164 if you feel that you will be able to rail on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASU_snowdevil Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 ultra prime is much softer than factory prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 What?? Im 6'0" 240# and I ride a 164 Factory Prime...With proper technique you can ride even shorter boards, Im just not that good :( . I would say get used to the carve on the longer board, then go to the 164 if you feel that you will be able to rail on it. Methinks a UP 162 is much softer than an FP 164. In my limited experience, getting the right stiffness makes even more of a difference on shorter decks than it does on longer ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 What area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Mike, I know a carver that is your build who went up to a Coiler and is selling his old Prior 4x4. Just right for a starter...for pretty cheap. I think it is a 179, and that would be perfect for you to learn on. It would carve way easier/tighter than your 178. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 is right on you could make the AT boots work but they have drawbacks anyway, since you don't know what you are looking for for you to make AT boots work it would be a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Methinks a UP 162 is much softer than an FP 164. In my limited experience, getting the right stiffness makes even more of a difference on shorter decks than it does on longer ones. Good call...DUH; brain fart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I don't know what's wrong with AT boots. I learned to carve in them. In fact I'm thinking of getting a pair this season to use when going BC riding. I've used my Heads, but they get really sketchy when hiking on rocks. As stated above, the UP will be awfully soft. The Volkl should be great. If you can find some other M carvers, they'll probably let you try out some of their boards. Oh, one other thing. M GO BLUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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