DiveBomber Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Can anyone do it? how hard is it, and anyone have one on video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 on alot of things, snow, board and YOU the easiest for me was a coiler PR 190 with a 15 meter scr some of the madd 158 riders can do it the best I've see so far, perfect tool for making a 15 foot circle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 whats the toughest part? i mena carving back up the mtn is easy but i usually just come to a stop. Do you have to carry a lot of speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 alot the hardest part is near the end, staying balanced enough to not end up on the ground and keep the board turning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Furthest I've gotten is about 270. But I'm a noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 be careful skiers are brain dead and can't seem to figure out that you can go back up hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 i cant get a turn tight enough to do a good buttonhole... i always wind up losing too much speed and pulling out... the furthest ive gotten is about 270, then finished the last 90 degrees by jumping around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 i cant get a turn tight enough to do a good buttonhole... i always wind up losing too much speed and pulling out... the furthest ive gotten is about 270, then finished the last 90 degrees by jumping around. I always ended up sliding the last the last 90-120 of it when I tried on my RC though it was usually at the end of the day when my legs were shot...maybe if I try before lunch I might be able to do it...or maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotts.Scheinman Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 once , i got it once. i was racing down a run and i tried it. i got lucky. i havent gotten it since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 the only way I can do it is on the heelside, I start out all racer like but by the end I'm layed out like the EC guys I try toeside but never got all the way for me if I try to really bend the board at the begining I slip out this is the only way I can get it to work is by going into the turn easy until I'm headed uphill then at that point if I can really bend the hell out of the board I can do it, sometimes, in a flat spot with soft snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Not on a board, only on my Elans. The trick: start your turn onto a side-hill, so when you go past the 180 you are already going back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 well its all about getting to 12O'clock and still having momentum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Ahh, I remember Peter Bauer pulling that in Boarding around the World VHS. Good old days. Ive yet to try 360 carve. Ill give it a shot this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipstar Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I could do it both ways at June Mountain, and only on the one run. It is a steep run which then goes uphill; easiest way is to go into it with a lot of speed, and that way as you are around 180 degrees, you start going back downhill again, which makes it easier to get through the last little bit. It was not harder or easier on heel or toe, the key seems to be to go into an ever tightening carve, as the speed drops, finishing fairly far back onthe board, so you can get a nice tight exit, and of course, the reverse slope makes it easier. Otherwise, I am like everyone else, about 180 - 270 and the speed runs out to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Come to MAC Tracks '07. There is a circle carve contest with beginner and expert classes. Last year a soft booter won the expert class. O.K., he is one of the best soft boot carvers I know, but still... Anyway, the expert class is supposed to go beyond 360 degrees. Last year, the snow was not right for that - the winner probably did about 450 degrees. In the right snow, it is possible to carve 720 degrees. I have not done that on a board, but I have done it on my SL skis and I know a softbooter who does them. On a board, I have done figure 8's - The practice of which I blame for not trying a 720 yet (that's my story and I'm sticking to it;) ). I have not been able to do the 8 on my SL skis - and I have tried quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 720's??!!!??? WHAT?!!!???!! Please, post a film of that and I will send you an honorary CASI Level 5, which will be made specially for you. I do mine after this cliff I like to hit into a groomed gully. I'll start to lay out as I go up the counterslope of the far side, so when I get to 180, I'm actually going downhill again, rather than up. Like Kipstar described. When I finish, It's happy time pant explosion, for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 of CMC doing it. it's awesome. he lifts the board up a bit with his legs to complete it. i imagine that's quite a bit of force applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Linked from The Carver's Almanac http://derf.dyndns.org/~derf/gallery/snowboard_videos/ver1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timinor Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I have Mike Jacoby on video doing a 360. He makes it look very easy and smooth. I don't have that video on the web though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I sat through that video looking for the 720 and I wound up watching a 360. I'll never get that time back. No question, you boys can carve, but I'm looking for the 7 footage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stoked Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I got 3 goals first is the circle and keeping going after that second is jump turns with a couple of seconds flight time and third is about t-bar lift rides with a goofy footed girlfriend :) of which NONE ever happened I managed to do 360 degrees but then I just lie on the slope head down and I seem to not find enough good kickers on an otherwise well groomed slope for a real great jump turns session and they have been replacing t-bar lifts with chair lifts fast but I won't give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 never seen someone do more than 360 with the edge fully burried... seen Marco Olm do 720's on a swoard ;) but he did the second turn on the tail's last cm! ;) Nils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 720's??!!!??? WHAT?!!!???!!Please, post a film of that and I will send you an honorary CASI Level 5, which will be made specially for you. How much would most resorts pay for a Level V instructor?;) Would I get that for doing the 7 on skis? Would I get it for doing the figure 8 on a board? I really want to work on the 7 this year on a board. I will see if I can get footage of somebody doing it who has already been successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 If you do the second 3, or the other half of the 8 on your tail, ballet-pirouette style at 1 mph, I will revoke your Level 5. If you can do it on skis, you're not spending enough time on your slab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 If you do the second 3, or the other half of the 8 on your tail, ballet-pirouette style at 1 mph, I will revoke your Level 5.If you can do it on skis, you're not spending enough time on your slab. The figure 8 is on the whole edge, albeit pretty slow for the last part. Trust me, I am not on my skis that much compared to the board. The first time I did this, I was demoing volkls at a demo day. I had not really skied much in years. I demo'ed their SL skis and I came to the bottom of the run and did a 360. I realized that I had tons of speed left, so I asked the demo guy for one more run. I came in HOT and went around twice. Two big circles. All of the skiers were applauding. I took the skis over to the demo guy and told him that I had to have a pair. Then I told everyone that I was going back in to get my snowboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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