Victory Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Not sure if this has been posted or not: "Two top-level Canadian snowboarders are tied to the largest marijuana grow operation ever found by Ridge Meadows RCMP, according to search warrant application obtained by The News. The search warrant that led to the Sept. 22 raid of Eighteen Carrot Farms on Cedar Way names the current owner of the property, Edward Ian Hadgkiss, an athlete who has competed in the Snowboard World Cup, as well as a former Olympian, Ryan Wedding of Coquitlam. Police seized 6,800 marijuana plants and 39.2 kilograms (86.5 pounds) of dried marijuana worth an estimated $10 million from a large barn on the farm. Court documents show a loaded Remington shotgun, a Remington Express Magnun and ammunition were also seized from the house. Hadgkiss and Wedding were not at the farm during the raid. They have not been arrested or charged in connection with the grow operation. According to the warrant, RCMP began their investigation after receiving information from a Vancouver Police Department detective. In a search warrant application, Ridge Meadows RCMP Cnst. Melvin Wong wrote he received information about a marijuana grow-op at 18 Carrot Farms from detective Cnst. Gilmore of the Vancouver police on Aug. 1. Gilmore told Wong he received the information from by a "proven, reliable source." The source told detective Gilmour there were 8,000 marijuana plants in the Eighteen Carrot Farms warehouse located at 13205 Cedar Way in Maple Ridge. The detective was also told there were 40 high density 1,000 watt grow lights per room. Each light produced .68 to .90 kg (1.5 to two pounds) of marijuana. The source also said there were 16 grow lights located in the house on the same property and that Advance Nutrients, an Abbotsford-based hydroponics company, provided the feeding supplies for the grow-op. The Vancouver police source alleged Wedding was the person who "transports and harvests the marijuana every two weeks." In his application for the search warrant of Eighteen Carrot Farms, Wong said he learned both Hadgkiss and Wedding were associated with a Ridge Meadows RCMP file regarding the cultivation of marijuana in 2004. Wong began his investigation by requesting electricity consumption records from B.C. Hydro for the property. He learned there were two accounts – one for the barn and another for a residence on the property. In the search warrant application, Wong wrote that for a house approximately 3,000 square feet in size, "bimonthly hydro records in the 1,000 of kilowatt hours are abnormally high." Wong also consulted Brent Warner, an industry specialist from the Ministry of Agriculture and Lands, about the process of growing carrots in a warehouse. In a letter, Warner, a professional horticulturist who has spent more than 30 years working with farmers, told Wong: "I can advised you that to the best of my knowledge there are no commercial warehouses in North America growing carrots." "The cost of lighting, heating/cooling on top of the artificial soil required, makes such a concept totally unreasonable and economically viable." Before RCMP raided the property in September, Wong used a thermal detection device to detect differences in surface temperature at night. He found a "hot bloom of heat" emitting from the exposed cement footing of the warehouse. The metal roof, the vents and walls of the warehouse also had "hotter" heat signatures. Wong also compared the signature to a similar sized warehouse in the same neighbourhood. Based on the information he had obtained, Wong wrote he had "reasonable grounds to believe that the following offense had been committed: production of a controlled substance and possession for the purpose of trafficking." Wedding, 25 competed in the parallel giant slalom competition, placing 24th at Salt Lake Winter Olympics in 2002. The web site, Canadasport.com, shows Hadgkiss, 33, participated in the Snowboard World Cup in 2001 and Grand Prix in 2002, at which he finished in seventh place . Hadgkiss and Wedding could not be reached for comment on Friday. The Ridge Meadows RCMP said the investigation into the marijuana grow-op is ongoing. They have not charged a 31-year-old man arrested during the raid on Sept. 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Snowboarders and marijuana together again :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Dang. For once it's a good thing that the mass media has no idea what the difference is between hardbooting and softbooting. These dudes will get lumped in with "them damn punk snowboarders," and the image of hardbooting (if there is such a thing) won't be damaged. Seriously though, a plant or two for yourself is one thing, but growing so much weed that you need firearms on the premises? Tsk, tsk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I'm surprised they didn't hit Ross up for comment. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Especially because they are all friends. Interesting to see where this goes. One thing fore-sure is that going across the border or through airport customs is about to become even harder for looking like a snowboarder. $10 million!!! Got to pay for those custom boards somehow I guess : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 No wait isnt it a good thing? The soft booter will think we're cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffy Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Thats what we do in BC...........grow the worlds best bud and board some of the worlds best terrain.....lol :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Looks like the price just went up... Cut them some slack....it wasn't like they had 10,000 plants or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Both thoose guys are great people, It's funny that they got busted. I had just read a Playboy article a while back about how most farms in BC grow Pot just to stay in busness while tring to grow real crops. Also that the RCMP over look most Growers because of the benifits the Income has over the community. I guess however if you dont grow any carrots theirs a issue... I hope it works out OK for them both. Last time I saw either of them was 02. Perhaps I should have asked if they were holding? :lol: I really cant imagain this having any negitive inpact to the hardboooting world, perhaps the free press will help. I would spin it as a reflection of the sport... World Cup snowboard athletes forced to seek other financial opertunnitys. Unlike many world cup skiers who can substain them selfs financially after a Skiing Career thanks to the millions spent by the ski industry. The Underground sport of alpine snowboard racing is so poorly financed that even some of the countrys best riders are forced to grow Pot, due to the lack of carrer oppertunitys alpine snowboarding provides. Perhaps now is the time to finance this great sport to the level it requires..... I can help but wonder why Bode Millers parents lived off the grid in New Hampshire? Perhaps theres more to being fast then we all know.............. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedzilla Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 If Ross was hanging out with these guys, it makes his second-hand smoke defense much more plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 http://www.snowboard-mag.com/node/15895 Damm hard booters - those alpine dudes are always dragging the image of our sport through the dirt, what with their skin tight neon jumpsuits and dangerously high stance angles ! first rebagliati now this ****, how are we ever going to impress the the ski comunity now !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 So what were the final results in Colorado for legalization? 60% No 40% Yes? Nevada was even closer. Something like 54% No 46% Yes. So close! :D Maybe a couple more years and who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 the voters were all out smoking and forgot.... pot will do that to ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuffy Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 ...is the testing problem. With alcohol (a drug with a much stronger effect, IMO) you can actually do a blood test, and absolutely know if someone is drunk or not (or at least know that if they're below 0.05, they damn well are not drunk). With pot, you can't do that. With the amount of time THC stays around, it's just not testable. The only way I'll ever support legalization of pot for drivers (I think it should be absolutely legal for anybody not driving/operating heavy machinery/using a gun/etc) is if we adopt a "guilty until proven innocent" stance. Basically, if you test positive for THC, and you've been involved in an accident, or have been stopped by a cop, then you are considered to have been "driving under the influence." If people who smoke pot can accept this, then I'm fine with it being legal. Unless and until we develop a better test however, there is no way in hell it can be considered a fully legal drug. [And don't anybody start on the "But..but...pot doesn't affect my driving!" Sure, it's not nearly on the scale of alcohol, but...well, I've known some treeplanters, as well as some other people I would most certainly not want driving while high.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Riiiiight, cause we all know how well of a handle people have on alcohol! But i guess your right after all tobaco is legal, and I just LOVE second hand smoke..... Stupid people rule...seriously, now only if they could kill them selves at a faster rate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 ...is the testing problem.With alcohol (a drug with a much stronger effect, IMO) you can actually do a blood test, and absolutely know if someone is drunk or not (or at least know that if they're below 0.05, they damn well are not drunk). With pot, you can't do that. With the amount of time THC stays around, it's just not testable. that's not completely true: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16829665 Current technology could easily come up with an accurate test for marijuana intoxication levels. We dont have them because it's still illegal, whether you smoked it just before driving or 2 days before is irrelevant, so there's no market for an intoxication level test. With the stranglehold the pharmaceutical company's and the brewing industry has on capitol hill, I doubt I will see weed decriminalized in my lifetime. Maybe some politician with a backbone can challenge the constitutionality of such laws, but I aint holding my breath...unless of course I just took a toke. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just to stir it up... A U.K. study showed drivers on weed were less likely to drive outside "Legal envelopes" due to the general paranoia most people experience when weeded. In their test, doped-up drivers were more attentive, more curteous and did not speed. This does not speak to decreased reaction times, but I suppose some accidents are caused by over-reacting to a given situaton and that slower reaction times could arguably be of benefit, depending on the situation. Given this test, I beleive everyone should be weeded, always . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Given this test, I beleive everyone should be weeded, always . An appalling stance from an authority figure. I'm shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I guess that winking, smiley face didn't work very well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Given this test, I beleive everyone should be weeded Who the hell says they got "weeded"? :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm what's known in the business as a "Drugtalker". This is a person who uses the cultural phrases of the subgroup (words like "weeded") so the youths with think he's "Kewl". Of course, as a politico, when I'm with the militant anti-drug group, I can spew "Just Say No" rhetoric with the best of them. This is what I call the "Chameleon Effect". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffy Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 http://www.snowboard-mag.com/node/15895Damm hard booters - those alpine dudes are always dragging the image of our sport through the dirt, what with their skin tight neon jumpsuits and dangerously high stance angles ! first rebagliati now this ****, how are we ever going to impress the the ski comunity now !! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm what's known in the business as a "Drugtalker". This is a person who uses the cultural phrases of the subgroup (words like "weeded") so the youths with think he's "Kewl".Of course, as a politico, when I'm with the militant anti-drug group, I can spew "Just Say No" rhetoric with the best of them. This is what I call the "Chameleon Effect". Marijuana is not really a "youthful" drug IMHO. That would be meth or X. To most kids nowadays they probablly think weed is kinda lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I guess that winking, smiley face didn't work very well... I'm pulling your leg. I'm difficult to shock :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just to stir it up...A U.K. study showed drivers on weed were less likely to drive outside "Legal envelopes" due to the general paranoia most people experience when weeded. In their test, doped-up drivers were more attentive, more curteous and did not speed. This does not speak to decreased reaction times, but I suppose some accidents are caused by over-reacting to a given situaton and that slower reaction times could arguably be of benefit, depending on the situation. Given this test, I beleive everyone should be weeded, always . great, more slow pokes on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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