TrenchDigger Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have not sold my Indy's yet but will be reposting them later with actual pictures instead of the stock Manufacturer picture (that should help sell them). I am wondering if anybody has any experience with these two boots? I wore the Indys for about two hours for one day. I Loved the stiffness, it transfered the feel very nicely. I was able to go from edge to edge very well due to the crazy forward lean of the Indys. The fit was horrible though. I followed the directions from the Bomber site and did the outline of the foot thing, then measured that. The 28's I ordered were WAY too small. From a little research that I did, I read that the UPZ are much wider and have a little better arch. If anyone has any experience with the UPZ please let me know what you think about them. I would order the Indy again but in a larger size, obviously. Thanks, TrenchDigger <!-- / message --> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I love my UPZs for that very reason: I have wide feet with low arches. Great boots, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Get Head! Either from Bomber or drive up to Tahoe and go to Elite Feet. Do a search on here and you'll find tons of info and discussion on this subject. The liners in the Heads are so much better than the UPZ liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenchDigger Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I love to "get head". Heard some good things about there boots too. TrenchDigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Liners of Head shoes are very warm and comfortable, with a very good holding of the heel. Great boots, easy to improve also .... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I love to "get head". Heard some good things about there boots too.TrenchDigger i want to see the I Heart Head stickers out for their hardboots. i got one for their skies and have it on my longboard. needless to say i get a few coments from it now and then. I like UPZs because of their wider construction, but yes, their liners do suck. i replaced mine with a set of thermoflex liners and was amazed at the improvement. it was like getting a brand new pair of boots. as for the cold factor, i have had some trouble with my shells getting a little stiffer on cold days, but the midwest boilerplate ice requires a little stiffness anyway so i cant complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I really like the UPZ boots, well, “shells” a lot. Agree, the original liner is really not the greatest, but that’s the case with almost all liners out there. Especially if you have “special” feet! I learned several years back, that no matter what original shell/liner I used, they all didn’t work great with my feet/ankles. Even the Thermoflex liner was not helping all to much (They packed out on me after riding a couple of hours). Ever since I use foam injected liners (Strolz), I can pretty much use any boot shell there is. I think, it’s more the liner/insole combination (with some good boot fitting skills, if needed) what makes all shells out there work… at that point it’s back to preference again, what shell design/mechanism delivers what power transformation/flex pattern… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I have wide feet. EE hockey skates. I ordered UPZ boots using the foot outline method of sizing. The first day on them, I had to quit because of the pain. Dan Yoja took them back with only a 10% restocking fee which I thought was very fair considering I did scratch them a bit. Because of that experience, I won't buy boots online. Got to try them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabe Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 skategoat, What's your boots now? (I also have wide feet.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I bought Raichle 324s after I returned the UPZs. I had no problem with width even with the standard, non-thermo liners. Then I bought some thermo-fit Intuition liners and have gone back and forth between the two liners with no real difference. I know a lot of guys rave about thermo liners but I feel no difference. I also bought some old Line boots for $25 off Bomber a couple of years ago. These were made under the name Line, Blax, Oxygen and, I think, DSM. I bought them on a flyer thinking if they don't fit, I only lose $25. They ended up fitting perfectly and I used them exclusively last season. Unless your feet are hugely wide, I don't think you'll have a problem with Raichles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxflow Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 and i am looking hard for new boots. it doesn't help that i need size 30.5 for length as well. even in just a shell fit my feet are snug side by side. my raichles were my first hardboots, and i destroyed them in two seasons, blew out the buckles and the foreward lean lock, on the inside. i would definitly recomend buying the higher end deeluxe boots if you choose to go that route, because the shell plastic is of a much higher quality, as well as the hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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