Neuffy Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Oh, yeah. The AM has been working out awesomely. That, and I'm now poor. I'm going to school fulltime, going to Europe next summer, going to Latin America the summer after that...etc. No, the AM177 has just been _perfect_. Carving, powder, chop, jumps, whatever - no problems. Well, one issue. 177 is a wee bit long for tight trees. Due to said trees, winter before last (the winter I got it) I had my worst snowboarding accident on it. I was going through tight, tight trees, and I almost made it back onto the path. Unfortunately, I couldn't avoid this one last tree, so I hit it with my rear toe, knee, hip, chest, helmet. Dead stop, with me standing against the tree I just hit. Fifteen minutes later (and incidentally, 20 minutes after the lifts stopped), I'm buckling up again, and the binding had been de-configured by the impact with the tree (not that I had noticed this). First backside carve, and my rear foot pops out, and somehow the back of my upper rear arm hits the front edge of the board. Foot-long, black bruise, as well as all the other bruisings. I'm just happy I didn't break/tear/pull anything. I ended up going down 1/3 the front face of Lake Louise sitting on my board. Just sit between the bindings, hang onto the one in front of you, and control speed by creating plumes with your boot heels. So I guess I need a powder board, and a GS. (Perhaps a 200+ 16m+...one can dream. It'd just be for the -30, only person on the mountain days though ...) Speaking of burying the nose, I can't remember where, but somewhere I've got a video of a bunch of Swallowtail powderboarders attempting frontflips by dipping the nose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moa Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Unfortunately I folded the nose my Coiler 177 AM. Last season I was riding on spring snow off piste & having one of my better days. Going into a toe side turn I went from heaven to hell. The nose folded & pinged me down the slope , I landed on my head followed by a couple of cartwheels. This was very entertaining for the people on the chair above, but not very nice for me I still have a small bump in my shin & pain from the damage a year later :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuffy Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Just to clarify (and correct me if I'm wrong) but doesn't "folding the nose" happen specifically while carving on hardpack (on piste, not in deep powder, etc)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Just to clarify (and correct me if I'm wrong) but doesn't "folding the nose" happen specifically while carving on hardpack (on piste, not in deep powder, etc)? can happen in both, but in pow its more of just a purl, like in surfing. burying the nose. folding the nose happens in a carve, with too much weight forward. Guess that could happen in pow, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Ugh, I folded the nose a few times while learning, and it sucked. I've modified my technique though so I'm mostly on the rear of the board now, and I've never had a problem since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moa Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Just to clarify (and correct me if I'm wrong) but doesn't "folding the nose" happen specifically while carving on hardpack (on piste, not in deep powder, etc)? From my experience it seems to be easier to do in soft snow, especially in the afternoon. In my case I wasn't paying attention to how much the snow was softening :o So I've widened my stance, added a bit of toe lift , & I'm keeping an eye on changing conditions So far so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Here's an example of folding the nose of your board when you get lazy and put too much of your weight on your front foot. Click on image to enlarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I think that folding the nose while carving means a face plant and a bloody lower lip (happened to me couple of years ago). Hit the hardpack real hard, bounced and rolled, landed on my feet and continued sliding with goggles full of snow. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 nice photo sequence. Glad there isnt one of my last beaut. and yeah...it does seem to happen more in softer snow. My last one was a transition from shade to sunny now that I think of it. no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I had an ugly nose-related wreck foraging for freshies a few years back... I went off the trail on a steep section, went into a "shadowy" area that was full of stumps. There was a 1/4 inch Ice Coast Crust on top of about a foot of snow that looked like freshies. The nose stuck in the crust and stopped short, I went over the handlebars and whacked my hip on a stump. If that wasn't bad enough, the side of the ice crust layer was razor sharp, so I had these bloody saw cuts on both arms...the jagged ice edge somehow found the gap between my glove and sleeve when my gloves punched thru... YOW! Looked like a failed suicide attempt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Anyone ever folded the nose on a backside carve? I folded the nose two times on a Speedster RS (the old grey model which was lots stiffer than the new yellow one). Both times it was on the frontside. One time it just happened without me knowing why, second time I carved down a really steep slope, pretty much man-made snow only, and got caught on stuck with the nose at the intersection of the groomers runs. However I never got the nose to stick in the snow on my backside, not even near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Better technique will help more than changing boards. Stay centered and drive with your knees. You can still fold the nose but you can prevent yourself from going over the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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