LeeW Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 check it out. bummer, bomber wasn't mentioned. oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Can someone post a scan perhaps? I don't have regular access to TWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 free-reading 'em at the store will do the trick, hence my pointing to page 58. i just happen to "borrow" my buddy's TWS magazine. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy D Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Can someone post a scan perhaps? I don't have regular access to TWS. If not a scan, how about a summary of what this is all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 well it talked about alpine snowboards as well as the bronze olympician of recent games at torino (a female). one page, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostertwo Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Can someone post a scan perhaps? I don't have regular access to TWS.Here you go:<img src="http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/boostertwo/TWS-article.jpg" border="0" alt="TWS: not just for wankers anymore?"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostertwo Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 And a few other items of alpine interest from the Sept. TWS: <img src="http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/boostertwo/TWS-note.jpg" border="0" alt="Alpine GS images in TWS: Long time, no see"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostertwo Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Some correspondence: <img src="http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/boostertwo/wE-sUCK.jpg" border="0" alt="...Deal with it!"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonerider Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 check it out. bummer, bomber wasn't mentioned. oh well. Yea, that is weird. They mention Coiler, Donek, Prior and Catek, but not Bomber. Maybe they are trying to give East Coast-based Catek a boost. As for the Q&A, why bother arguing with someone from TWSnow? True, GS and SBX are a minority (1%), but I like how he implicitly includes "cruising" (89%) as part of freestyle (10%). Fine by me... it's just saves alpine riders the pain of having to deal with punks. Again if GS and/or SBX were to go mainstream, the punks would just switchover (that is to say punks are punks... regardless of whether they do park or race). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 the way i see it... real snowboarders have respects for alpine riders. there are some pro's who used to be an alpine rider, like craig kelley, tina basich, jeremy jones, etc. so i could care less of what people say about alpine riders. i just agree with them to the point that its not the majority of the riders. fine by me, less competition to race against. -smirk- EDIT: How could I forget my "gaa-gaa" chick, Victoria Jealouse as one of former alpine rider ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Im dead sure 1998 wasn't the last time TWS publish a photo of an alpine rider. the last one was last year with jeff greenwood poppin' the halfpipe in full race attire/equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Thanks for the scans - saves me scrabbiling amongst the teen mags to check that. But really I think we're in danger of suffering from some kind of time-lag here... TWS may have been "it" back in the day, but it's not been much more than a fanzine for years. Most of the punters who buy that are more interested in the colour of their board than how it rides... the editor's very diplomatic in what sounds like an imitation-teenage style, but I think he's trying to say that spending a lot of time learning how to do the sport isn't on most of his readers' agendas. Bomber? I think they listed just board manufacturers, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonerider Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Im dead sure 1998 wasn't the last time TWS publish a photo of an alpine rider. the last one was last year with jeff greenwood poppin' the halfpipe in full race attire/equipment.Technicality, he's a SBX rider not a GS racer.Craig Kelly is two generations removed. Even Jeremy Jones and Tina Bastich are not very well known today. Real snowboarders *should* have respect for alpine riders, but many don't - that's how it is, not really a big deal. I do freestyle probably more than I ride alpine... but I'm not going to listen to Scotty Arnold who's tuning technique is (and I quote ): Tuning techniques: On my rail board, I use a grinder I bought at the hardware store to pretty much grind the edges completely round, tip to tail. For my bigger board, I grind the tip and tail completely round and take a little off the edges on the rest of the board. People like him are not worth my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 people fear or dislike what they don't understand or feel threatens them. good riders will likely garner respect, even from park monkeys that would otherwise rag alpine. being social on the lift can really help to break barriers, but aren't we riding for ourselves (at least most of us)...just not worth my time /energy anymore to dislike tws b/c no alpine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Most of the punters who buy that are more interested in the colour of their board than how it rides... the editor's very diplomatic in what sounds like an imitation-teenage style, but I think he's trying to say that spending a lot of time learning how to do the sport isn't on most of his readers' agendas. true, but you may be forgetting the 18,066 USASA members recieving TWS out there focused on the compeditive aspects of snowboarding rather than the feestyle vs hardboot argument that is at the moment so heated. I was surpprised when i read the first tidbit in the letter section, but even more so when i saw the full page devoted to alpine, and i believe that the only reason for this being there is the growing number of hardbooters now involved in USASA competition. TWS is one of the key USASA sponsors and has been for many years, and i dont think that the folks in the editing and marketing dept can easitly neglect the influence of such a readership in terms of the magaizines continued success. me being an optimist, i took the full page of alpine as a preview of what may be to come in the next few years, and there is no doubt that when the 2010 olympics roll around, we wil be seeing a huge ammount of prime time coverage for snowboarding, maybe even prime time alpine coverage, leavign me to wonder where this sport will be 8-10 years from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 me being an optimist, i took the full page of alpine as a preview of what may be to come in the next few years, and there is no doubt that when the 2010 olympics roll around, we wil be seeing a huge ammount of prime time coverage for snowboarding, maybe even prime time alpine coverage, leavign me to wonder where this sport will be 8-10 years from now Im kinda grimacing that prospect considering USSA's current standing with the alpine racers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Most of the true fans of this magazine are very diplomatic guys... then of course youve got the punks and posers following the hype buying the magazine because they sell it in the skate shop where the cool kids hang out. Im relieved to see such apathy towards alpine in this magazine. also: the transworldsnowboarding.com "set up selector" has "alpine" as one of the 5 dicipline choices for finding gear. However, they have no alpine gear in their database yet. They dont have wide boards and other things such as burton gear yet either, so im thinking they probably just need some time to complete their board list. transworld might be the only part of pop culture snowboarding that still recognizes alpine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 TWS is a big clothing ad, as far as I'm concerned... I think there is a huge potential market for alpine....I took my boots in to show the guys at the local ski shop and the snowboarding guys LOVED the boots.... You get these teenaged park rats a little older and a little more discriminating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Technicality, he's a SBX rider not a GS racer. Who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Who are you referring to? Jeff Greenwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonerider Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 I think there is a huge potential market for alpine....I took my boots in to show the guys at the local ski shop and the snowboarding guys LOVED the boots.... Are you sure that wasn't because YOU were wearing them? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 I had the opportunity to chat with Jason Ford (Snowboard Journal founder). He mentioned a few things that I found to be helpful in trying to understand why snowboard mag publishers don't publish alpine/carving related material. We all know that the main reason is that the mags cater to the general audience of snowboarding (read: money) hence you have all those ads in the mag which may diminish content. From a publisher's point of view, if these advertisers don't buy ad space, they go out of business. I find it hard to believe that the whole staff of TWS has a vendetta against carvers. They just have their hands tied and are doing the balancing act between satisfying readers and satisfying their advertisers. For example, Jason and I spoke briefly about that carving article he published last season in his magazine. He told me that he received some negative responses for even publishing it. A few advertisers weren't down with it. One unnamed company in particular threatened to stop advertising. Honestly, it was 7 pages of story that they complained about versus the hundreds of pages that were published prior. Goes to show you how opinionated and influential advertisers (snowboard companies, apparel cos, all things related) are. I doubt the mag regretted publishing the article. Jason seems to be a pretty stand up guy. He caters to the core snowboarder, one who isn't caught up in the hype, one who just wants to ride for the love of it. You can see it in the mag's content. He does though manage a magazine that still needs to stay afloat. Whether another hardboot-related mention gets published in the SJ or TWS or any other pub, who knows. Just understand, its not necessarily because the editors of TWS hate hardbooters. I suggest we continue to support those publications like the Snowboard Journal that strive to "keep it real". They love snowboarding and they want to show that love in articles and photos and other content that will make the snowboard loyalist happy. On a separate note, I caught a glimpse of the first issue of the Snowboard Journal for the upcoming season. IT LOOKS AWESOME. It'll probably hit the shelves next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Jeff Greenwood. Yeah, I understand that he's been pushing toward sbx as of late and that he signed on w/Donek in '04 (sbx), but to say he's not a GS racer isn't entirely accurate. In fact I believe he was training in both disciplines this past season. Maybe those that have trained with him recently could comment (uh, Billy...) And yeah I dig that photo of him in the pipe in full GS gear Ooops! Didn't mean to hijack the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonerider Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 blah blah blah... Ooops! Didn't mean to hijack the thread Hehe... whatevers. Another possibility could be they meant 1998 was the last time they had a photo of a hardbooter actually racing. I would worry less about the past and more about that future... like when will we get the next hardbooter into TWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted August 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 If my memory serves me correctly, didn't Jason Ford rode alpine boards HB too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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