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This is a bargain for you USguys. Very tempting. You can also ride this one as a wide very fast alpine board. Can also be ridden with hardboots. Tempting.....................

All McFussel VIRUS Snowboard vids Just awesome......

No Virus, just buy yourself an USD 1800.00 TINKLER

I totally agree with Bob. I didn't know your bootsize. I wear a 27 mondo but a 28/29mondo you definately need a board with at least a 26 cm waist.

No!!!! You can carve the hell out of that mountain with softies too. No problem. My allround carving soft set up: FLOW PRO freerides with Vans Fargo BOA and a POGO Longboard 175, 35 in front and about 25 tot 30 in the back, no cant, no lift. Carves like hell, nice platform in powder and slush. Also good for my old rotten knees when I am tired of riding my alpine boards.

I disagree that you can't carve on a alpine oriented board with a soft setup. It's not the material that restricts you, but it's the rider himself. An alpine board with hardboots will only help you with a better carve (more control). Icy conditions, take a relative soft flexing but stiff torsional wise! board, it will hold better than a very stiff one, and it will give you more comfort. If you have a soft set up which gives enough support, you can ride it on an alpine oriented board, no problem. I ride a POGO Longboard 175 with softies and also can race this one with my soft setup (I also have Vans boots with that BOA thing, stiff enough!). My soft set up is a rather supportive one. Racing Skiers have a problem to overtake me with that alpine oriented POGO. That Donek Axxes with a soft setup and that wide waist looks fine to me. A nice allrounder for some one with a bad knee. With that 24 cm waist you will have a nice platform for the more powdery days. Don't know how stiff that Prior ATV is, but looks like a good one too, I think with a radius of about 10m, it's a turny one for sure. The only downsite with a wider board s that the edge change will be a little less faster but you will also have more comfort on it. May be you have to wait a little and look in the classifieds for a good secondhander. There will be interesting boards dropping in when the first snow is there for sure. Seems that an allround alpine oriented carveboard will suit you best. So no Silberpfeil for sure (not good in softy snow conditions).

Aren't they going to be wet earlier than thicker socks?? And how is the isolation of warmth in comparison to thicker woolen socks?

I agree with Ray, and by the way only the Zylon editions from Virus are of a absolute high price. They are lower priced boards from Virus which are also well rideable.

Got your package in today. First impression: Nicely package, the boardcase itself is also topnotch, exactly what I expect! Just thick where I want it to be, almost flightsecure. The colors are nice too!!! (I have a second boardcase for flying where I can put this boardcase in for extra protection). I am glad my Tinkler 202cm isn't 1 cm longer, it fits exactly at the mm!! So its made perfectly, it fits like a glove.

Thor, there are several topics about this. Virus has stopped the production of Swoard at the end of last season. For many reasons the cooperation with Swoard ended.

Ursle, that's looking nice, that Cyborg with a Vampire look. How does this one board?? Didn''t know Frank did built something like this.

But too stiff and with an unforgivable character to ride I think.

Looks nice. But I think the pics are just the other way around. The Berserker is the bigger one, his little brother is the smaller Gladiator on the right Anxious to hear some reviews about that new Berserker.

You have them already......F2 S-Flex

Just ordered some race tongues from blue tomato for € 9.95. Will give some feeback. Couldn't resist to try for this amount. Indy Race Zungen (tongues) Artikel Nummern: 56530-1000-9080 in der Größen 25 - 27.5 Oder 56531 1000 9080 in den Größen 28 - 31.5

You're right.

I see it as an advantage that this boot is slighly or even stiff/soft as the AF600/Suzuka. With the BTSKIT you have more possibilities to experiment and adjust the forwardlean. What I mean is, you can't make a stiffer boot softer, but you can make a softer boot stiffer by using stiffer springs. Don't know about the tongues, haven't asked Deeluxe. But with the possibility with different springs I think I don't need that. I think I found the perfect boot.

Hard to tell. What I can say is that the new boots weigh equal as my former Raichle AF600. Lateral/sideway movement is little. Think the tongue is softer, can't say how this material behaves in the cold. May be Fin can say anything about this, because he had them already last season. Some did test them already in your country through Fin, I think............

Will look into it, but its surely worth trying at this little price.

We have an onlineshop overhere in the Netherlands with all that sh.......... All sorts of Springs

With exactly the same BTSkit, yellow springs. Otherwise you compare apples with peers we say here. I found my former/older Raichle AF700 much stiffer. I think it's the boots material, softer tongue, and the buckles which are smaller and stand off the boots (the former ratches were lying against the boots).

As promised some experiences with the new Tracks 700 T on the dry land/carpet. I have installed my custom insoles and the BTSkit with the softest springs. The fit of the boots is perfect, even without baking them in the oven, and with my very high arch I have. They fit better than my former Raichle AF600 with thermo's. The boots are equal too, I even think softer in the forward lean than my former Raichle AF 600 (=Deeluxe Suzuka) with my bodyweight of 84 kgs. I find them too soft for my taste, so I did give the back screw some turnings but I didn't felt that much, they went slightly stiffer but not enough so gonna order some other stiffer springs overhere in the Netherlands. They cost me euro 2.50 each. One other thing, I have changed the chrome parts which are on the black plastic of the front buckles some tighter which is an existing possibility of these boots. I have some tiny calfs so I made an exra hole in the black plastic so I could tighten the upper buckles more. I also installed the Intec heels, the holes in the boots were already made by Deeluxe, you have to push with some strength to get the cables through it!!, but no need to make the holes bigger, just push a little more.

Hope the Prior Turkey will taste good!!

About 35/30 on a POGO Longboard 175 with Flow bindings. Carves very well. Superb edgehold

This thing is gonna be hype, can't take it anymore, I need snow.............. definately..................... Of topic: At Sundays we'll have the FIS World Cup Big Jump/Air in the Port of Rotterdam.... 24 big trucks with snow were needed....