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Plum is the latest release from Red Oak. Arnie had requested a warmer version of HotRodRaceWax, so here it is. Like original Hot Rod it is a "Hyper Optimized Teflon", product. Race glides start at 32F and run down to 18F. Like HRRW we recommend using the Wax Wizard with Plum. Plum should be ideal for West Coast, and early / late Rockies / East Coast. fyi... To everyone out there... If your in a rush and can not fire up the hot iron, try warm rubbing a thin layer and polishing with the Wax Wizard. I did and the glide was great. I was on Plum, last week 10/19 with Arnie at Loveland.

Getting concerned about the head cracken... you had better check with Phyllis. If they get worse you will have to take a break...

Steve, Thanks for the feed back. HRRW actually has a fairly large range due to the Teflon. The Teflon particulate is acctual very temperature dynamic. We have seen a decrease in performance in 3 limited conditions: 1. Super wet spring conditions when the base wax material is way out of range and out side the warm side of the glide temp range. This is caused by the wax and wet conditions. We call this Water Skiing! 2. Super cold fresh blowing snow at the very bottom of our range. Typically, nothing is gliding when it is that cold, -12F or less. Teflon has glide limitations well lower to less than -50F. We are currently working on a totally new product designed for World Cup Racing which should still glide in that super cold, super hard, super sharp snow conditions. If sucessful it will be the only product in the world to have this capibility. 3. Investigaing the last very unique issue and this only effects less than 1% of applications ie users / customers. Were looking into it... If you find that HRRW is not up to snuff it is probably from 2 conditions. Either over heating / smoking the wax which destroys it, or old material. HRRW like all waxs have a shelf life. Please see our website for the latest Tip and Tricks. We now recommend using the Wax Wizard as a final step to polish the base. FAST and no waste! www.HOTRODRACEWAX.com

JP1, Thanks! Your right, HRRW, is fast and last a long time. Arnie has won two (2) NASTAR titles on HRRW. Using the Wax Wizard adds to the value since you polish the base and don't scrape the wax into the garbage can! 50gm should last an entire season.

DT, Thanks for posting...great stuff!

Great question! If you apply like Ink is you can get a full season from one 50gm product. If you make a mess and hot wax it all over the place you will need 2 or 3 pieces. The wear factor of HRRW is extremely good so you typically only need to touch up the closest area to the edge. Cold rub and a fast pass with an iron. If you use a Wax WHIZard there is virtually no waste and should get a full season for 1 50gm HRRW. :D

This could be the begining of the end for testing.... Saturday was a mess and I think I strained my lower back.

Since many riders and skiers use Rays Way products it was necessary to test Rays products with HRRW. In addition, I sent Ray a shop sample of HRRW to test as well. Red Oak Development Llc., HotRodRaceWax.com, and Ray’s Way Alpine Tuneing ar not affiliated and do not have any business agreements or partnerships. The test equipment has been: 179 Coiler RC Metal 177 Coiler AM Metal 184 Donek WC 184 Donek GS Rec 184 Donek GS Rec Proto Type(s) 174 Dynastar Ledged Split Tail Volkl All Mountain Skis This last in the season the principle subjective test has been is it sticky since HRRW is way out of its temp zone. Standard recreational application of HRRW with a heavy layer has been less than the perfect glide we are use too. To get different results you have to do things differently. I had scraped each of these down to the base. When possible I place each board in the sun to pre warm and placed HRRW in my pocket to pre warm as well. I used the coarse fabric and completed a final base cleaning and removed any micro base / P-tex hairs from the base of each board. I did not use the HI-Glide product during this evaluation. I then cold rubbed, pushing very firmly and applied a thin to modest layer of HRRW, but clearly "NOT" a heavy layer. I covered the entire base surface and edged twice pressing very firmly. Next, using Rays Way Wax WHIZard I worked the wax back and forth, tip to tail pressing very firm to hard. The layer of HRRW responded very nicely and appeared to move into the base structure. In addition, the wax WHIZard created a very smooth and even surface. I made one final pass tip to tail starting at one edge, center, and final edge. The final pass created a micro structure and a final polish. The ugliest quick application came this last weekend to a pair of skis. While in the Loveland Ski Resort parking lot I did a very quick cold rub on cold skis while it was snowing. Was not pretty but the wax WHIZard smoothed out the high spots and once again produced a very good finish. The snow conditions were dreadful with half frozen slush under heavy wet soft fresh snow, maybe 1 to 1 1/2". The skier that I was with me commented he did not have any sticky spots and was expecting everything to sticky and slow. He was making turns and moving down the mountain very nicely. Results: Checking for the dreaded sticky glide in spring wet conditions was good. My opinion HRRW was better than an "All -Temp" wax. The glide was smooth but the snow was very, very slow so no one was moving fast yet were we still passing other riders while making turns. We did not have the opinion to create and use a glide track. Heavy wet spring snow is notoriously slow. These conditions slowed down HRRW but the glide was still good with the thin layer polished with the WHIZard. The thin to modest layer of HRRW and Wax WHIZard has also been tested at A-Basin. Cold mornings produced the fastest glide conditions. As the temp warmed well above the recommended temp the wax slowed down but was still better that what other people were using. This was determined by observing other riders and passing or catching them. The wax WHIZard and HRRW are a very good combination from our evaluation perspective. Hopefully, next fall we will be able to work with Loveland Race Club to perform a “controlled” glide test. We have completed other tests with Loveland Race Club and are looking forward to working with C.B. next season. Conclusion: We will be adjusting or tips and tricks card to include the Wax WHIZard for soft snow conditions and for racing due to the highly polished surface the product produces with HRRW. http://www.alpineskituning.com/index.htm * This review of Wax WHIZard with Hot Rod Race Wax will also be posted in the HRRW thread as here in the review section.

CONGRADULATIONS !!! Two years running NASTAR National Champion defends his title! Very cool. Great job from all of us a Red Oak Development Llc. and HotRodRaceWax.com We are looking forward to sponsering you next year as well!

Since many riders and skiers use Rays Way products it was necessary to test Rays products with HRRW. In addition, I sent Ray a shop sample of HRRW to test as well. Red Oak Development Llc., HotRodRaceWax.com, and Ray’s Way Alpine Tuneing ar not affiliated and do not have any business agreements or partnerships. The test equipment has been: 179 Coiler RC Metal 177 Coiler AM Metal 184 Donek WC 184 Donek GS Rec 184 Donek GS Rec Proto Type(s) 174 Dynastar Ledged Split Tail Volkl All Mountain Skis This last in the season the principle subjective test has been is it sticky since HRRW is way out of its temp zone. Standard recreational application of HRRW with a heavy layer has been less than the perfect glide we are use too. To get different results you have to do things differently. I had scraped each of these down to the base. When possible I place each board in the sun to pre warm and placed HRRW in my pocket to pre warm as well. I used the coarse fabric and completed a final base cleaning and removed any micro base / P-tex hairs from the base of each board. I did not use the HI-Glide product during this evaluation. I then cold rubbed, pushing very firmly and applied a thin to modest layer of HRRW, but clearly "NOT" a heavy layer. I covered the entire base surface and edged twice pressing very firmly. Next, using Rays Way Wax WHIZard I worked the wax back and forth, tip to tail pressing very firm to hard. The layer of HRRW responded very nicely and appeared to move into the base structure. In addition, the wax WHIZard created a very smooth and even surface. I made one final pass tip to tail starting at one edge, center, and final edge. The final pass created a micro structure and a final polish. The ugliest quick application came this last weekend to a pair of skis. While in the Loveland Ski Resort parking lot I did a very quick cold rub on cold skis while it was snowing. Was not pretty but the wax WHIZard smoothed out the high spots and once again produced a very good finish. The snow conditions were dreadful with half frozen slush under heavy wet soft fresh snow, maybe 1 to 1 1/2". The skier that I was with me commented he did not have any sticky spots and was expecting everything to sticky and slow. He was making turns and moving down the mountain very nicely. Results: Checking for the dreaded sticky glide in spring wet conditions was good. My opinion HRRW was better than an "All -Temp" wax. The glide was smooth but the snow was very, very slow so no one was moving fast yet were we still passing other riders while making turns. We did not have the opinion to create and use a glide track. Heavy wet spring snow is notoriously slow. These conditions slowed down HRRW but the glide was still good with the thin layer polished with the WHIZard. The thin to modest layer of HRRW and Wax WHIZard has also been tested at A-Basin. Cold mornings produced the fastest glide conditions. As the temp warmed well above the recommended temp the wax slowed down but was still better that what other people were using. This was determined by observing other riders and passing or catching them. The wax WHIZard and HRRW are a very good combination from our evaluation perspective. Hopefully, next fall we will be able to work with Loveland Race Club to perform a “controlled” glide test. We have completed other tests with Loveland Race Club and are looking forward to working with C.B. next season. Conclusion: We will be adjusting or tips and tricks card to include the Wax WHIZard for soft snow conditions and for racing due to the highly polished surface the product produces with HRRW. http://www.alpineskituning.com/index.htm * This review of Wax WHIZard with Hot Rod Race Wax will also be posted in the HRRW thread as here in the review section.

Many people on the EC have been using "Rays Way" waxing tools http://www.alpineskituning.com/index.htm Since there has been interest I ordered the Wax Wizard and the Glide Tool. There are also a couple of concerns. First, after a very long conversation with Mike DeSantis and Ray there is good reason to reduce the amount of heat that a good base sees. Reducing hot waxing can reduce possible damage to your base and build construction. I agree with Mike and Ray. Who in their right mind is going to argue with Mike! Limited hot waxing is okay in the coolest setting possible but less is more... First test was a simple application of HRRW. The test board was a 184 Donek WC Metal. See specs at www.Donek.com The board had been previously hot waxed with HRRW, light scrape, and light brush. I put the board back into the sun to pre-warm and wax in pocket. 20 minutes later the board was warm and ready. I firmly cold rubbed the wax as typically recommended. After a good cold rub I used the Wax Wizard, NO hot iron. Firm pressure from tip to tail and repeat. I made a final continuous tip to tail pass, edge, center, and edge. No brush! The results are very good. I have waxed soooo many boards developing HRRW that I can tell a good finish. I would say there is a good finish on the base of the WC. The WC is a demo board from Fin so it will go back to the shop ready to fly! Call Fin or Ms. Michelle to reserve it. I expect the WC will see a few turns at A-Basin this Friday. I will post the glide reviews. The next step: I will order more of Ray's products and test with HRRW to verify compatibility. HRRW

Sat and Mon! Friday late morning... Donek Metal WC 184 needs some love... before Ink destroys it!