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Dropping price to $500, you pick up shipping.

New Season coming up BUMP!

There is no mounting screw pull. Did not know where you saw that, so I looked at the photo's, what I think you are seeing is just glossy spots in the photo. I actually had to feel for the mounting holes to find them while looking at the base. Good question though as Kessler's construction is softer than most.

I purchased the board a couple years back on eBay. I have no idea of its history before that point. Mike rode the board in 5 contests, no training runs. Here is a picture of the base at the waist showing the edges.

Hey Guys, Selling the Kessler as Mike is now a College Student. Kessler GS 180 Serial #6017. Base in good shape, some (small) discoloration at the binding mount points. Very little use since I purchased the board, but I purchased it used. Edges very sharp. Looking for $650US plus shipping. Thanks for looking

Once again, I have to thank you all for the fantastic help. I have learned allot about this discipline, and have some objective information to bring back to the table. First I would like to address the Slalom portion of the season. In short, he won all his races, but there where other riders in different groups that where seconds faster than himself (All Hardbooter’s). The one thing that no one told us about Hardbooter’s, but it is obvious after you study you guys, is you like to keep your shoulders perpendicular to the board. Softbooter’s are drilled to “stack”, keep your shoulders parallel with the board. Likewise, Hardbooter’s will break at the waist to push weight to the front of the board if needed during a carve. Softbooter’s will lean towards the front of the board while remaining stacked, refraining from bending at the waist if posible. The Hardboot set up really helped on heal side carves, one of the more difficult aspects for a Softbooter to perform well. Michael was fast in Hardboots, faster than he was on his Softboot set up. But when in trouble, he would revert to his old-trained habits of stacking, which would make the problem at the moment even worse. No disasters, he would force things to work, but it would break the carve, and slow him down. Next I would like to discuss Boardercross. We moved his angles forward +10 and +25 on his Softboot setup. This allowed for much better heal side turns, but it introduced a new problem and a realization that there is a reason for riding duck, or negative angles on the rear binding. When a rider is surprised by an unexpected hit or jumps, a duck stance is more self centering, keeping the riders position where they should be on the board. With forward angles, a unexpected pop will push the rider into the “Backseat”. With a series of pops or hits, the problem just exacerbates itself until the rider finds himself unable to regain control. So, it comes down to selecting compromises of how a rider can be retrained and what equipment can be utilized to maximize their performance given the selected choice. Training Mike to try to keep his weight forward when riding BX forward angles seems obtainable. Training Mike to place his shoulders perpendicular with the board while riding one set up and parallel while on another seems a bit too challenging and possibly detrimental to his performance over all. Best Regards!

Agreed, it is a fabulous board, very fast! It tore up everything else on the course.

TD1's http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320450620238 Nidecker SL http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320450607415

I've seen what your boy did with his! My teen is just to big for a 151. Serious BX board.

I will take them.. Paypal?

It was a stretch, the post being so old and such. But I never saw a 'Sold' post so I thought I would give it a shot. Thanks for the reply. Chris

Thanks for the info Jerry, I withdrew my bid, being silly and mis-informed. Carve99 expressed his interest after that, so he should get first dib's. That being said, it he backs out let me know and I will purchase them from you. Either way you win! Chris

And they look like the F2 Titanium RS that Prior is selling http://www.priorsnowboards.com/snowboarding-gear-alpine.php I'm so confussed... But hey, there yours Carve

I'm sorry, I thought they were F2 titanium's, but am being advised that they are not... Thanks for the reply.

The Arcane system he used to ride would get iced up and would not latch in. Dad wasn't around to help so... He learned to come down the hill one footed. He became very proficient at it in his early years. <O:p</O:p<O:p</O:p The real question about the F2 binding did not center on the binding system per say, step in vs. bails. The question is more about the change in models. The F2 titanium of yesteryear is more like the F2 carves of today. Additionally after being cautioned on placing metal on metal, I became acutely aware that the F2 titanium’s use a metal binding plate that attaches to the board. <O:p</O:p What it comes down to is should I spend $219 for new F2 Race Ti Bindings or $90 on the older F2 Titanium’s.

Like these http://cgi.ebay.com/F2-intec-challenge-comp-bindings-brandnew_W0QQitemZ250505269589QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sporting_Goods_Skiing_Snowboarding_Snowboards_CV?hash=item3a53471155 or these http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=26636 or maybe new (Catek selling F2's, that is new!) http://catek.com/F2-plate-bindings.htm

I'll take the F2's if they are still available. I just picked up some TD1's that are in fair shape if you are interested in a trade. Thanks, Chris

Are F2 titanium's Ok? I believe the plate is metal and am wondering if that would be problematic for the Kessler?

Ok, the TD1's are going up on Ebay. I was wondering about the footprint of the TD1's. They looked like they would be applying allot of stress into a small area. I will hunt down some F2's. Thanks for the advice!

Everybody in the group has been great, on and offline. <O:p</O:p Setup so far is UPZ Race boots, Trench digger 1 bindings, and a Kessler KST SL (donated for a very exceptional price, great guy). Offers of a Kessler KST GS have been made by a outstanding individual as well. Will be moving the angles forward on the existing Palmer Crown setup for BX. <O:p</O:p Going to be pushing some steep angles (for us) for the Kessler’s; But the boy has been working with the boots already and is psyched. <O:p</O:p It is going to be an interesting year to be sure. <O:p</O:p I will keep the group posted. <O:p</O:p THANKS to all!!! BTW, nice site G team. FYI, a decade ago, Mike's fist setup included Arcane stepin boots and bindings(plates). If you ever have seen them, you know just how close they are to hard boots. Putting on the UPZ's where like a trip down memory lane for him.

You wouldn't happen to still have these would you?

Are you selling with or without the Catek's? Thanks!

Love the animated gif! Can I nab it from you?

Interesting. I do not know when it became the industry standard to keep “Toes and heel as close to the edge pressure points as possible; with (whatever) angle necessary to do such”. I fought hard to get people to understand this on the newsgroups. It is why when riding low angles, such as many freestyle riders do, you will have some boot overhang. I see two extremes being discussed here. Very large angles v.s. very wide boards. I would find it very enlightening to watch both types of riders on course. Just an assumption, but I think we would see riders using largely cross under in one camp, and cross over in the other. Obviously a highbred of them into cross through for speed. The riders are adamant about their positions because they are experiencing real world results for their particular style. I imagine both have trophies and medals.

While I appreciate the resolution, this debate certainly shows that this sport does not follow absolutes at this point. From angles to equipment, the person riding is the biggest determining factor of an outcome. I appreciated the debate, though it looked like a flame war about to erupt at any moment. Well, actually it did. Dave, those are some extreme angles, but nobody can deny that they work for you, you have proven that. I have always said given that right pair of boots and bindings, you should be able to ride a wood plank to the bottom. I am looking into the Nidecker for SL still. The Kessler did not pan out (no reply). The Nidecker Race SL is a modern design and construction, Carbon, Kevlar, with Metal and is as wide/wider other SL boards. But it might be too stiff. Still looking to Kessler, maybe Coiler, SG for GS. In BX I am still undecided. Might stay with the Crown riding a different stance with a better wax set up. Nothing in this discipline is absolute....Well Winning…:)