carboncarver

My Quiver/stash is no longer part of the long term plan so I am rotating out several old rides. This is the carving board thread, it will be followed by the plate binding thread. Then I will be selling a series of original Hobie Dual-edge board packages. Each package will be a group of the different generations of construction, both a Carbonfiber and a Fiberglass package. This is a whole pack of fun, some boards have little time on them and others are in well ridden condition. All with good camber and storage waxed. Please ask questions or for different pics if you would like them. The PJ7 has been ridden hard, has a cracked top sheet at the front binding toe and long base weld, but it still throws down the turns. I am interested in offers, if I am not at market price. I accept Paypal gifts/USPMO and ship for $20 in the US. I'll get pics loaded asap! Rossignal AC 153 $100 Melhuse 159 $150 Burton RaceStock 160 $100 Brooklyn 160 $100 Killer Loop 167 $150 Regular Asym's M5 150 $100 F2WC Carbon 160 $150 PJ7 173 $100

What length ya after? I got a size run of them.

That Heli-cam rig has been used in OffRoad truck racing as well. I would like to figure out the kite aspect, however, having several in the quiver!

Nice kite work. What size is that kite in the video? Looks beefy for flying on land! Makes me wanna get mine out and fly on my mtnboard.

Try some stronger springs in the trucks to keep the board stable. It will take more effort to hold a turn but wont flop to one side or the other just cause you changed you balance. I have a vintage three wheel model that steers the two front with tierods and spindles by pivoting the deck. I like it much better than the MBS style pivoting skate truck designs, for dirt. It is hard to keep steering through a turn, at the radius you want, when the skate trucks are moving up and down with the changing terrain. Having a rear brake to skid the tail into a turn is added fun! I really want to try one of those two wheeled ones with the caster front since it actually carves the turns. I love dirtboarding but it has crash consequences that I would rather risk on a bike. Full armour: Helmet, wrist guards, gloves, knee and elbow, spine and chest protection is wise when actually descending at any speed on anything but grass. I have watched some bloody carnage when "tough guys", with no padding and just gloves, caught or tucked the front end and pulled a swan dive into superman slide on dirt and gravel, at speed... edit to add: I haven't tried the dirtboard with my kites yet, but I really want to. I have a 2m trainer, as well as 4m and 6m snowkites. They can get some seriously fast pull, with very little wind. My board is probably a little too short to be getting much speed anyway...

No worries, I hit have a habit of hitting the quote button instead of Reply! If you cant tell, I have a thing for graphite. That was some of the finest paper I had seen and must have been additionally confused...:D

***edit to add: Sorry, OP said layman's terms. When used right, the board don't twist and release the edge during a hard carve or over rough snow*** Carbon is only bling when it is used as trim or in minimal amounts, then a marketing tool at best. When used for longitudinal flex control, it does require extra dampening to keep from generating a sine wave form(bounce or chatter). When applied correctly, carbon fiber monocoque provides tremendous torsional rigidity and a minimum of the bounce effect that incorrect layup gives. We are talking loaded edge deflection measured in millimeters, not inches like every other construction material and that is on a wide BX/freeride profile, not a race profile, which would be even less. I assisted in the development of the first all carbon cap construction boards that utilized the carbon twill in that fashion. These boards rip the living xhit out of the snow in a way that exceeds the best construction of any other material. To achieve the same torsional effect with glass, it would take such thick mat, that the board would be prohibitively heavy and the flex would be dead. It isn't any where near as damp as metal, rather, lively and responsive, better described as SNAPPY. I must ride a modern metal/carbon board and see how a decade of development compares to my trusty old sticks. I have yet to ride anything, carving board, race board, whatever, that doesn't twist like a noodle compared to my Carbon Dual-e. Donek is making a board that may have the benefits I speak of, I can't wait to try it! Don't see too many rockets or performance sailing (board or boat) masts made of anything else. Propellor and rotor blades, aircraft wings etc all take advantage of the light weight, torsional rigidity of carbon that no other material can match. It ain't bling when its engineered by someone who understands its properties and how to apply them.

The skiers on track, the day I was timed, were getting just over 130mph. I see that the Sun Peaks Velocity Challenge is still running in BC. Back in the day, I wanted to get on the clocks there but they didn't allow snowboards. I wonder if that is still policy and why? Gonna have to investigate! BC is much closer than Europe and I love the interior snow! Man, it looks more like a boarder cross course with that big air in middle of the run!!! Check this footage of a couple runs on course...

Cool info! Thanks for the heads up on the fastest one. Watching the video shows some sketchy moments during his descents. He needs a profiled base to smooth that out. I attended a speed ski session in the late 90's and broke the beams at 97mph. The skiers were surprised that I had razor sharp edges since they detune the full length to keep from catching. The board was a custom Dual-e on the bottom of a 175 race of some kind. I borrowed an aerodynamic helmet and speed suit to make the runs. There was plenty of track up the mountain above where I started, to increase trap speed, but I didn't get to try it since the conditions had changed and the wind was blowing too much. I'll have to dig out the photo archive and see if the shots from that day are in the file. I still have a Landingham speed helmet and Burton 185 with a Dual-e with NACA duct in the base that was made for straight line speedski course work. I haven't taken the chance to run it through the lights. Guess I should break it out and head to Les Arc one of these days and see if it we leave a mark on the books, instead of the snow... Unless there is still a speed event in North America that I don't know of, any suggestions?

Hobie carbon dual-e 162 freeride has been my love affair for over a decade. I saw the twinkle in her daddy's eye, her birth and confirmation and celebrate each passing birthday. I ride her with reckless abandon, at every opportunity and I mount her the hard way, with heavy iron from her day, Bomber TD-1's. She'll carve every turn like we we're on rails. She is strong enough to punch through the roughest crud, she'll chew though any mogul I point her at without getting torqued, yet she's soft enough to finesse the driest powder. I can lay her over to 90* on any corduroy slope until my armpit drags, for turn after turn after turn, and she still begs for more. Even after I am totally out of breath with heart pounding, knees shaking and thighs burning. I am thankful for her full figure with broad waist-ed bulging hips since she floats so well when the going gets deep. I am even more gratified with her carbon top and bottom since she'll never loose the amazing spring in her step or get floppy and droopy with age. I have only a couple more copies of her and loath the day when she gets too old and her skin is too dry or creased to slide on her bottom, anymore.:( Do I really love my board?

I'll be rolling my carbon freeride boat, today. I am tempted to bring my Steel carver, just in case, but will probably leave it in the quiver. Base of Sunrise for me this morning. My 9y/o hardbooter is still getting a feel for edge lock and Marshmellow is a good warm up for her. Where is all the Expressinin' gonna be happenin'? The Powderoy or Trees?

I have loaner gear as well, just posted it on the loaner thread. Get in touch if any of it is needed for the instructor demo. I expect to be there on the 8th for sure, and maybe on the 13th