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  1. This is my first time commenting on this forum. I started skiing 12 years ago and enjoyed it a lot. I started skiing 6 days a week three years ago at a small hill in Ontario Called Brimacombe with only 300 ft vertical. I had always seen people on alpine boards, I had always really wanted to try it. It wasn’t until the winter of 2019 when I decided I wanted to try snowboarding, this decision came from starting to get bored of skiing. I felt like I couldn’t really improve any more and the hill was getting boring after skiing there so much. I was very lucky to get a great deal on a used Kessler from another member at the hill, I then went to yyz Canuck that night and got new boots and bindings. The next night I was out and riding, I was on my own for the first night never even been on a board before no clue on how to do it. I pointed it down the hill and by the end of the night I was able to make it down without falling. Now I am hooked! Enough about how I got into snowboarding, let’s talk about the future of alpine! At my hill there are at least 20+ alpine riders of all ages. We have older members who ride alpine and have young members who are riding alpine. I think compared to the big hills/ mountains why we have a lot of alpine riders is because of how much vertical and amount of quality runs we have at our hill. Like me a lot of us like to ride skis/soft boots as our primary and then have transitioned to alpine riding to give us a new challenge and make the hill interesting and challenging again. I agree with a lot of points this thread has brought up, but my opinion is that alpine is not for everyone. I believe this because to ride alpine you have to have a different mindset to the regular rider you see at the hill. Most of us all crave the speed and the feeling of getting as low as possible to the snow. Most riders in my opinion are just wanting to go out and have fun with friends and are not concerned about progression and they also don’t get enough days out on the snow to really progress in the sport. But all the alpine riders I know all want to go out and have fun with there friends while working on the skills to become better riders. In my opinion to bring people into alpine is very hard because the only people that are looking to get into it are the higher skilled skiers/boarders. The riders looking for the most out of there gear to push themselves to the limit. I agree with the point you guys have made about soft boot gear becoming so advanced that you can carve very aggressive and low on soft boots which is really the main reason to go to hard boots so why switch. Once again goes back to making the hills more exciting and challenging agains. I could see alpine becoming more popular at the smaller hills then at the bigger hills to just make it more fun and exciting.
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  3. Not in it but I was there for my first comp. Thanks for posting this Happy Bob! Ink
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  4. The elephant in the room is global heating, not just for the future of alpine snowboarding, but mountain based snow sport in general.
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  5. Like it or not, the times they are a changin’. From what I’ve seen, alpine is not going to grow, at least not from the youth and it’s not related to the cool factor. I started skiing in my early 20s and rented my equipment for three years before I committed and bought my own skis and boots. Which was a big deal at the time. You can’t rent alpine/hardboot equipment anywhere that I know of and demos days are few and far between. Even less now with the demise of Bomber. I never used soft boots. I went directly from skiing to alpine/hardboots. The twist and skid method of getting down the hill or slamming into the bank of a run looked inelegant to me and I wasn’t interested in the least. But then I saw someone in what I thought were ski boots carve down a run at Kirkwood. It was so graceful to see but I didn’t personally know a single soul who was into it. Even back then it was not an easy sport to get into. There was no equipment like that to be seen in the shops and the staff was not encouraging as a matter of course. So it took a few years of online research with a lot of procrastinating in between and talking with Michelle, before I finally hit send. And that was with the help of Bomber. But the average young person does not have the patience for that. Sure they’ll say those carves are beautiful man, and then go back to skidding down the hill. So, anyways: Board, hard boots and bindings: $1,300 maybe. (And yeah, I know about buying used, but there are sizing issues and It’s intimidating and inconvenient for someone new to the sport. Most people want to talk about equipment to someone in person at the a shop. You can’t do that with alpine.) Daily lift ticket (at Mammoth) $125 And then there’s lodging and transportation. So unless the young person has a trust fund, incredibly cheap rent and/or no college debt, it’s no longer close to being affordable. But it’s affecting skiing and soft boot snowboarding too. In my opinion the major resorts are shooting themselves in the long-term foot with the Ikon and Epic pass system. My costs are already sunk in alpine and ski equipment, so the pass is great for me. But they have upped the daily pass rates through the roof to force more people into buying the season pass. What beginner is going to spend that kind of money on something that they don’t even know they will enjoy. But for the resorts, receiving all that money upfront is like crack for them and they are not going to give that up. With this level of cost and lack of rental or demo equipment, it’s not something a young person or beginner can do on a whim. Consequently both sports are aging. This video explains it. It’s focused on skiing. It’s not 100% accurate and doesn’t apply to every resort in the country. But it gives a good overview on how many of the resorts are beginning to struggle.
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  6. Inky needs to have a peek at that Berthod clip, he might be in it Thanks Happy Bob! Mario
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