brice540iit Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Hi guys I am on my second rear bail failure of the season. (Front foot both times) Starting to wonder if i should switch to stepins.... Which one is supposed to be stronger? I knom stepins have less "play". I bought a new F2 speedster 163 WC, definitely stiffer than my old coiler angry. Would that be related? I am 6'1 and 215 lbs wondering what kind of bindings the "big boys" are running here.... Thks for the input! Edited February 17, 2019 by brice540iit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'm large... I've gone through a selection of bindings and broken some bails along the way. If I had to go down to one set right now it would be the F2 Titanium's... https://www.f2.com/snow/bindings.php?L=&da=1926&dk=47&db=11&name=RACE TITANIUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Steppins are stronger, regardless of brand. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburk Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 If you’re asking which is stiffer, then stepins. But if you mean by “stronger”, “which one will I break less often, if at all”, then stiffer doesn’t necessarily relate to longevity. I think the least likely binding to fail due to stress would be the one that has some flexibility designed in and implemented with the burliest materials. You might take a look at the SG bindings that upzboots.com is rep’ing in North America. Same basic design as the F2, but more heavy-duty and with some design improvements. Also check out Thirst Snowboards Facebook page, I think he has a set of the SGs on sale that he was showing at MCC. Still brand new, never been out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 +1 stepins. Bomber by Gumbo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brice540iit Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Hmmm....i dont trust the front plastic bails of the F2 or the SG.... Here in the northeast they break like nothing when it's cold. Looks like i should.try step ins then. Anybody else care to.add something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, brice540iit said: Here in the northeast they break like nothing when it's cold. Man someone better tell F2 stat! That's a lawsuit waiting to happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt. Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Big and fat! Bomber TD 3 step in! The boot binding interface is tight and strong, and I use a flexible boot. I check the bindings before riding just to make sure nothing is loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brice540iit Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, lonbordin said: Man someone better tell F2 stat! 1 hour ago, lonbordin said: I love F2 products...i just bought a speedster I just remember that back in the days the plastic toe bail of plates would break. Regardless of brands.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwjob1 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, brice540iit said: I just remember that back in the days the plastic toe bail of plates would break. That is why the TD3 is great. I am a big guy and have never broke one. I have worn out the eye that the shaft goes through but easy to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, brice540iit said: Anybody else care to.add something? Might not be the binding. Might be how you're loading the binding. Did both bails break in a similar location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Just checked mine and was surprised to find what looks like a tooling mark on the bail wire about halfway between the eye end and the first bend. Both inside and outside of both heel bails. Not from boot rub - maybe the forming mandrel picked up some damage? Edited February 18, 2019 by Lurch Add info and photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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