SunSurfer Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance capitalism https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/20/shoshana-zuboff-age-of-surveillance-capitalism-google-facebook? Even as you read this you and your data are being harvested, processed, and sold. A new and thought provoking book from a professor at the Harvard Business School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, SunSurfer said: Even as you read this you and your data are being harvested, processed, and sold. Well .. yes for most, but not all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 "Once we searched Google, but now Google searches us" dystopian wonderland in the palm of your hand. ever tried to shut off all the apps in your phone that "require" access to cam/mic/text/location/contacts/biometrics?? they turn themselves back on. the ultimate spy device in your pocket it aint yours. My new data harvester does it all in ultra high def, and I pay them a lot for the privilege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I read the review, not the book. She seems terribly confused, for example: Quote In my early fieldwork in the computerising offices and factories of the late 1970s and 80s, I discovered the duality of information technology: its capacity to automate but also to “informate”, which I use to mean to translate things, processes, behaviours, and so forth into information. This duality set information technology apart from earlier generations of technology: information technology produces new knowledge territories by virtue of its informating capability, always turning the world into information. "informating"? I guess in the US people are getting used to stuff which makes no sense, but I don't think I'd buy a book written by someone who talks like that. Unless she uses Trump's ghost writer, I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 IF you don't pay for it... you're the product. (this counts for your data as well.) @philw No we're not... I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 @philw Neologisms have a proud history in English writing. T'was brillig and the slithy toves..... She's trying to describe something not seen before. Bending the shape and meaning of words we already use is not inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 i grew up in Maryland, very near Ft Meade/NSA. and mass/global surveillance of any kind (echelon, omnivore, carnivore) has always been a part of my memory and been accepted as a fact of life by virtually everyone i know (from this area). sadly, i should add. i came to realize that i really do live in the D.C. bubble when the Domestic Surveillance Program that supposedly came out of the Patriot Act was met with such shock and surprise, publicly. that so much of the same is now commercialized seems normal to me. sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 hours ago, SunSurfer said: @philwshe's trying to describe something not seen before. Bending the shape and meaning of words we already use is not inappropriate. It's obviously written by someone who is out of touch regarding "information technology" but insists on writing about it. I come in contact with this kind a fair bit. The word she is looking for is "analyse" or maybe "parse". Data input -> analyse -> info output. "informate”, which I use to mean to translate things, processes, behaviours, and so forth into information....... Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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