xy9ine Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 all this hot weather has me longing for cooler days again. i'm fully committed to softboot carving currently, stoked on the slashy / surf style / new school japanese stuff that's going on. short, wide swallowtail shapes are kinda hot. powder happy, turny shapes that can rail an edge. boards like the k2 cool bean & jones storm chaser are piquing my interest (there's other more exotic examples out there, but looking at somewhat affordable examples). anyone have experience on these shapes that can attest to their carving ability (i'm going to assume they're more than adequate in the fresh)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyride Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDWeQQD3VOg Nitro Squash. Soft or Hardboots. My son and I used this all last season. Works everywhere. This years models comes in more sizes. Last years price was $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xy9ine Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 it's pretty! looking for something wider though. squash is 255; jones is 275, bean is 287. want square-er angles and no boot out. k2 is at the top of the list currently. though is quite short, with a long nose; just concerned there's not quite enough edge there for groomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) everybody loves pictures. boom, fatty: Edited August 14, 2018 by xy9ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, xy9ine said: new school japanese stuff that's going on. We ride hammerheads for softboot carving here. Swallowtails and surf style are more for powder and softer snow. No one I know in Japan rides a swallowtail or surf style board as their main board. If you really want a Japanese or Korean style board you could check out SG SOUL SURF and MOSS SNOWSTICK if you are interested in a surf style. If you like hammerhead check out GRAY DESPERADO and its variants. The short fat snowboard style is not a Japanese style thing. I believe it's an American thing. Volume shifting or something? In saying that, I'm new to it myself. Got a good deal on a 164 SG Soul since most of the Japanese boards are too expensive for me. Edited August 15, 2018 by daveo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 alas, seems all the cool japanese shapes are too narrow for we gaijin of more endowed foot size. both of the above are in the 25cm range. i've got a fullbag diamondblade, which is a sick hammerhead softboot carver (with a 265 waist), just looking at a wider carve happy pow playboard as a compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 12 hours ago, xy9ine said: alas, seems all the cool japanese shapes are too narrow for we gaijin of more endowed foot size. both of the above are in the 25cm range. i've got a fullbag diamondblade, which is a sick hammerhead softboot carver (with a 265 waist), just looking at a wider carve happy pow playboard as a compliment. Semi-fat semi-short to complement your Diamond Blade: The Fullbag Supernaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 i have been eyeing up that and the lifer as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Moos PQ60 or U5- Can Do, Will Do, DONE! Tahoe Sports Hub in Truckee CA is a Moss dealer and has all last years boards on sale for 30% off! Go Get It! 530-582-4510. Ask for Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Diamond blade does it all. Listen to MiG. Float carve whatever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 8:29 PM, daveo said: We ride hammerheads for softboot carving here. Swallowtails and surf style are more for powder and softer snow. No one I know in Japan rides a swallowtail or surf style board as their main board. If you really want a Japanese or Korean style board you could check out SG SOUL SURF and MOSS SNOWSTICK if you are interested in a surf style. If you like hammerhead check out GRAY DESPERADO and its variants. The short fat snowboard style is not a Japanese style thing. I believe it's an American thing. Volume shifting or something? In saying that, I'm new to it myself. Got a good deal on a 164 SG Soul since most of the Japanese boards are too expensive for me. The characteristics of the hammerhead boards are amazing. I can’t stand the no tail cockroach boards. They even make Rama ride like a tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 10:29 PM, daveo said: The short fat snowboard style is not a Japanese style thing. I believe it's an American thing. Volume shifting or something? In saying that, I'm new to it myself. Got a good deal on a 164 SG Soul since most of the Japanese boards are too expensive for me. I have been following the snowsurf scene for many years, and I definitely think the short-fat movement/trend was influenced by what was happening in Japan. The american brands just picked up on it and adapted it to their market. Gentemstick, Moss Snowstick, and other smaller brands, have been doing relatively small boards with waist width 26cm and over for awhile. It might not seem that wide nowadays, but the average boot size in Asia is not what it is in North America and Europe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 my initial interest in these shapes was piqued (primarily) by the widths - ie, production boards over 270mm wide, often with a bit of (gasp) camber, and (relatively) stiffer construction. and i like the look of swallowtails (twins are just a waste of length for me as i'm directionally handicapped to forwards only). now if this board was a couple cms wider, i'd already own it (my first board was an antigravity with the same graphic; high nostalgia factor): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 17 hours ago, slopestar said: The characteristics of the hammerhead boards are amazing. I can’t stand the no tail cockroach boards. They even make Rama ride like a tool yeah, love my DB. just looking for a tighter, slashy plaything for plundering pow pockets. and carving in between, of course. mig - give the above: lifer vs supernaut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, xy9ine said: yeah, love my DB. just looking for a tighter, slashy plaything for plundering pow pockets. and carving in between, of course. mig - give the above: lifer vs supernaut? Through all your posts on this thread you seemed to emphasize more width, shorter, more playfullness, and tighter / more manoeuverable. So I would say Supernaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 howdy this was called soulmotion a few years ago from Missoula, Montana, but found a name change elevatedsurfcraft and now in Driggs, Idaho. I rode with these guys a few years ago and they rip some nice carves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Back seat cockroach style but that’s my opinion and I am entitled to one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy9ine Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Mig said: Through all your posts on this thread you seemed to emphasize more width, shorter, more playfullness, and tighter / more manoeuverable. So I would say Supernaut. it does look good beside its brethren. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Mig got you covered... Edited August 17, 2018 by Poloturbo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 1:38 AM, Mig said: I have been following the snowsurf scene for many years, and I definitely think the short-fat movement/trend was influenced by what was happening in Japan. The american brands just picked up on it and adapted it to their market. Gentemstick, Moss Snowstick, and other smaller brands, have been doing relatively small boards with waist width 26cm and over for awhile. It might not seem that wide nowadays, but the average boot size in Asia is not what it is in North America and Europe. Yeah gentemstick and moss sure do make some nice surfy boards, but they're not exactly short and/or wide. Something like the 28cm wide, 154 Nitro Quiver Pow is more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 13 hours ago, daveo said: Yeah gentemstick and moss sure do make some nice surfy boards, but they're not exactly short and/or wide. Something like the 28cm wide, 154 Nitro Quiver Pow is more like it. The Gentemstick Rocket Fish has been around for longer. And at 145cm with a 29.4cm waist if that is not short and fat, I don’t know what is! Always loved that pic of Tom!!! Still have that catalog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 3:46 PM, Mig said: And at 145cm with a 29.4cm waist if that is not short and fat, I don’t know what is! Danny Devito is... ;D What do you think of the Korua Shapes boards? Was considering one myself recently but ended up with a hammerhead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, daveo said: What do you think of the Korua Shapes boards? Was considering one myself recently but ended up with a hammerhead. My Fullbag boards are better?!? But honestly, I haven't seen one in real life yet. On paper, some models look interesting to me and from what I have heard, they are on the stiffer side. I would have probably bought a couple to try if I didn't do my own gig. But the one thing I don't like, is that they seem to do the same board over and just change the nose and tail shape. Several models/lengths seem to have the same specs for nose/tail/waist width, sidecut, setback, taper, etc... Edited August 20, 2018 by Mig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechocolate Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) I'm throwing the mosquito into the mix, with the longest in the line-up having a waist of approximately 27 cms. Edited August 21, 2018 by charliechocolate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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