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18 hours ago, bigwavedave said:

Just took delivery of this SF 162 today! Second of 3 boards for me from Thirst (small, med and large). Multi-board discount and came with a board bag! This really should be in the board porn section...

Wew, nice. These sure are tempting.

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Got out on my new Super yesterday (opening day at Spirit). Normally I avoid opening day, but they had made tons of snow with several runs open. It was above freezing so snow was mostly soft, yet very fast with occasional buried icy chunks to surprise you. Such is man made snow.

This board carves like you're in a dream--completely sure footed, somehow seems to smooth out the inconsistencies between the soft snow and the hard icy stuff. You feel and hear them, but it doesn't throw you off. Rhythmic turning produced snappy air-born transitions. Super lively and super fun!

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btw, the colors in the topsheet graphics on these boards are really cool having a sort of 3d, iridescent (lenticular print) quality that you can't really see in photos.  Kind of like those tilting picture toys that change images, except it doesn't change images (thankfully). That would be dangerously distracting going edge to edge!

12/28/18 update: Just thought I'd add to this review after riding some late day, really chopped up crud (chud?) from a wet snowfall from the day before. I swear this board goes through this stuff like nothing I've ridden before, as if It had a plate, but with no loss of snow feel. As it slices through rough stuff you can feel the ends of the board moving, but it barely seems to reach your feet. The bumps just seem to get smoothed out before they reach your feet. My knees are so very thankful. There were occasional soft pockets and it seemed to magically float over, rather than dig in, even in the middle of a hard carve. At the bottom of the hill the snow transitioned to icy hard and the board handled it fine, even if I hadn't adjusted my technique yet. I'm still learning to trust that this board will  handle a wide variety of conditions with an ease I'm not used to. WARP design virtual plate effect?

Not that this matters to me one bit, but in the lift line I heard "look at that board" or "cool board" and on the chair, "hey mister, I like your board" quite a lot today.

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Carvin and Bigwave,   How do you find the overall stiffness of Thirst boards?   Could your legs hold up riding a whole day?     For a comparison I find Donek and Virus stiffer than my legs can enjoy all day long.

Bigwave,    now that you've had most of the season with your Thirst Armada which is your go to ride and how do you find the SL162 and when do you pull it out?

 

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On 2/23/2020 at 10:59 PM, barryj said:

Carvin and Bigwave,   How do you find the overall stiffness of Thirst boards?   Could your legs hold up riding a whole day?     For a comparison I find Donek and Virus stiffer than my legs can enjoy all day long.

Bigwave,    now that you've had most of the season with your Thirst Armada which is your go to ride and how do you find the SL162 and when do you pull it out?

 

Barry, 

Definitely some of the easiest boards to ride. You can ride them hard, like Carvin in the above vid, but you can also just put your hands behind your back and cruise by simply leaning over into your turns, and anything in between. They are super smooth and forgiving of less than perfect form. I love that next to last turn in @Carvin' Marvin's video. Definitely one of those moments where the board says, "I got this one".

I think the Super that Carvin is riding is the same one I first demoed. It was super flexy, yet performed well. My custom Thirsts are stiffer than that demo board. Still easy to ride. I kinda wish I asked Mark to make one of them really flexy (like that demo) for easier riding on ice.

I'm still nursing a couple of old injuries, yet put in ten, 5 hour days in the past 2 weeks. I'm 66 yrs old and should know better.

The SF162 is the best little board I've ever ridden. I have ridden it more this year at my local hill just because we've had more icy and flat light conditions where I wanted to keep speed down and be more maneuverable. It's super versatile---surprisingly steady doing large radius high speed turns when you want, and willing to change it up in an instant to make a tight turn with full edge engagement. It also comes out to ride narrow runs or when it gets crowded.

My favorite ride though is the 8rw, in good conditions with grippy snow, good visibility, and enough room to make turns (it doesn't require as much as you'd think for a 185). That's only because I'm not comfortable cranking hard turns on ice. I'll just get going too fast for my comfort, and if there's poor visibility, my knees don't like surprises. I spent several full days on this board recently on great snow--it's so smooth! Those are my favorite days.

The Super 175, or even the XC 171 might be the most versatile as a "one board quiver".

If I only got one, I'd get a Super. Two? Then I'd get the 8rw and the (SF162)? more likely the 171XC.

But there's the conundrum. Luckily Mark anticipated this and offers a one year multi-board discount.

Just start with the SF162 and start saving for the the next one.

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1 hour ago, bigwavedave said:

Just start with the SF162

Thanks Dave,

Yep, that's my thinking!   I got everything else already in my quiver.....  K168 for hauling groomed ass,  Swoard Dual 168 for less than perfect conditions and Moss PQ60 for tha Pow.   All these boards are  off the shelf stock .

So Mark's boards are not that stiff in comparison to Donek or Virus??    Does his boards go by weight ranges in the build?  I'm 6'2" and 229+/- too much at  the moment but I typically would go 1 weight range lower or a shorter board length for a softer board (than what my weight usually would dictate) for my 63 year old legs to ride all day.  :freak3:

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2 hours ago, bigwavedave said:

The SF162 is the best little board I've ever ridden.

Spent 6 days in Aspen and split my time 60/40 between my SF and my Superconductor. Rode the SF in on and thru 6” - 8” powder piles all over Snowmass and groomed runs there and at Buttermilk. It turns on a dime and runs out as long as you want to hang.

This past weekend I tried it with gecko plates yet again ...forget about it. Totally throttles the board.

Keep in mind I have always preferred a GS board so I do not have an SL board to compare it against.

But if I could only have one....

 

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1 hour ago, barryj said:

Thanks Dave,

Yep, that's my thinking!   I got everything else already in my quiver.....  K168 for hauling groomed ass,  Swoard Dual 168 for less than perfect conditions and Moss PQ60 for tha Pow.   All these boards are  off the shelf stock .

So Mark's boards are not that stiff in comparison to Donek or Virus??    Does his boards go by weight ranges in the build?  I'm 6'2" and 229+/- too much at  the moment but I typically would go 1 weight range lower or a shorter board length for a softer board (than what my weight usually would dictate) for my 63 year old legs to ride all day.  :freak3:

Mark has his method of determining proper flex for your weight and makes each board individually based on what you tell him. So, there are no generic wt ranges between models. I would either tell him you want it softer or lie about your weight by 15 lbs or so.

I know @Algunderfoot might be able to chime in here since he has ridden the SF made for his wife who weighs 50 lbs less than him.

Never rode a Virus. I've had a few Doneks and really liked the REVs and Inclines. I know some folks find them stiff, but mine have a deeper sidecut, so maybe they flex easier.

I'd say not as stiff as Donek or SG frt, but maybe a bit stiffer than Kessler and Coiler (which I find very similar). I think Thirsts feel more like the carbon Oxess. I don't know if that helps.

I've had a couple of K 162's and an SG frt163 (and others), loved them, but they were more work to ride for the same amount of fun than the SF. After getting the SF, my search was over for the perfect little board.

 

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Quote:  So Mark's boards are not that stiff in comparison to Donek or Virus??    Does his boards go by weight ranges in the build?  I'm 6'2" and 229+/- too much at  the moment but I typically would go 1 weight range lower or a shorter board length for a softer board (than what my weight usually would dictate) for my 63 year old legs to ride all day.  

@barryj

The demo boards I have are as middle of the road as I can imagine, every rider is different in respects to style, stance, angles, experience, energy, etc.  The Superconductor BWD rode in the UP (softer and narrower, but not by a bunch) is not the same one as CM rode at MCC.  I build all the boards custom for the rider.   I try my best to communicate with the customer and get at what they want and need.  I set a target Flex Index with a build and am usually within a few ounces upon completion (closest I have gotten is 1/3 of an ounce to target).  After customers buy a board or two we start to communicate with flex index to determine the stiffness as the most basic modification.  No two boards I have built are alike in numerous aspects, its all for the customer.  I do not modify the shape of the sidecut of my models except on occasion I WARP a model to fit the customers desires, i.e. CC, CC+, X-model, TS, PC and PCjv are not typical WARP models, though I have built the X-model, CC,  and CC+ WARPed.  Flex, width, taper and insert location for stance spread according to the needs of the rider are some of the obvious mods I do.

I cannot communicate the differences of all mfgs and models for comparison in stiffness especially since a great amount of those are custom builds.  One customer that I know of has made my Flex Index comparison on a few of his boards and it was an eye-opener for him/us to put the stiffness in a quantifiable term (for us at least).  Having those measurements made it made it easier to communicate what that board was to them and how we approached a target for a new custom Thirst model. 

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2 hours ago, bigwavedave said:

my search was over for the perfect little board.

Thanks Dave!    Now If I can just live long enough  for a SF to show up in the classifieds!

2 hours ago, BLOODTYPEZX10R said:

The demo boards I have are as middle of the road

Middle of the road build!    Mark, that's the perfect starting place for me! 

Really want to try one before I commit to a full-spec-custom-for-me-build,   but me and my gimpy shoulder won't get a chance to Demo a Thirst this season :mad: 

Mark you wanna turn loose a SF Demo at the end of season? 

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15 hours ago, barryj said:

Thanks Dave!    Now If I can just live long enough  for a SF to show up in the classifieds!

Good luck with that plan Barry. 

At a certain age, time becomes more valuable than money.

Sell one of your Moss squadron and get something you can use everyday.

Middle of the road build!    Mark, that's the perfect starting place for me! 

Really want to try one before I commit to a full-spec-custom-for-me-build,   but me and my gimpy shoulder won't get a chance to Demo a Thirst this season :mad: 

Mark you wanna turn loose a SF Demo at the end of season? 

 

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7 hours ago, bigwavedave said:

At a certain age, time becomes more valuable than money.

I hear ya Dave.......but for me I'd at least like a clean and simple test drive or two before getting into all the custom ordering mumbo jumbo.

You know I'm gonna commit........but still being on injured reserve I just got Way to much time on my hands to overthink all of this And I won't be able to use this board until Next season anyway!!  :angryfire

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1 minute ago, Kneel said:

They're like potato chips...

Ha!  I'm getting the urge myself..................for a SF 162!

How do you like your SF?        What's a typical day/run when you pull it out??

How's Thirst's board stiffness.......say compared to Donek's?  Can you ride Mark's boards all day??

6 minutes ago, Kneel said:

8RW early last season, SF and XC this season, a Superconductor WILL be ordered this summer

Wow!  I can only say that's a huge  testament to the Thirst ride and Mark's build quality! 

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A little something out of the Southern winter, blighted by a nationwide Delta Covid Level 4 lockdown on the day following a 40+cm dump at Cardrona (& similar over most South Island fields). Ski fields here can't operate until the Level drops to 2 or less, and that may not happen before our season is nearly over. A fortnight in new cases seem to be plateauing and much of the country will get to Level 3 in 3 days time.

Think of this as a video review of the Thirst SC in typical NZ resort conditions, hard pack under cut up loose snow, getting lumpy from early in the day. The GoPro8 used had a "dead mouse" wind noise muffler so the edge bite of the Thirst is clearly audible. A range of POVs used, including 16:9 in "portrait", and a boot top mount looking forward.

Just getting to grips with DaVinci Resolve 17 from BlackMagic Design, a completely free, high end video editing tool.

If I could have put a music track to it, it would have been Robert Palmer's "Simply Irresistible"!

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