billyt. Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I hope they bring back those day glow graphics! Thanks for sharing the pics. I would love to try one of those "new" powder boards to see how they ride. That Sims board was pretty soft flex if I remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, softbootsurfer said: Interesting...Float from wider noses...more surface area to stay up and out of the Pow...I am sure it is just me, but I dislike wide noses for that very reason...harder to get into the pow, while once below the surface they load up and hold you down.. My O-Sin 4807 solved the 'sub' effect by having a 'boat-hull' nose that creates a very distinct shallow 'V' from the prow, and, in the upwards curvature is very stiff, as it's bonded along a plastic rib. The whole of the shovel, ahead of your edge-contact point, then is solid, with the 'hinge' for flex being where the edge starts to be effective on hardpack. I've gone into woods where a log was hidden under a pillow, and had that nose just loft right up and over, where a more conventional board (such as my World Wide) would've 'stubbed it's nose' on such an obstacle. The downside is when back on groomers and haulin' along, the tip of the shovel starts to oscillate and flap up+down; A bit disconcerting, but it lets ya know you're motoring along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Eric Brammer aka PSR said: My O-Sin 4807 solved the 'sub' effect by having a 'boat-hull' nose that creates a very distinct shallow 'V' from the prow, and, in the upwards curvature is very stiff, as it's bonded along a plastic rib. The whole of the shovel, ahead of your edge-contact point, then is solid, with the 'hinge' for flex being where the edge starts to be effective on hardpack. I've gone into woods where a log was hidden under a pillow, and had that nose just loft right up and over, where a more conventional board (such as my World Wide) would've 'stubbed it's nose' on such an obstacle. The downside is when back on groomers and haulin' along, the tip of the shovel starts to oscillate and flap up+down; A bit disconcerting, but it lets ya know you're motoring along. Not just the sub effect Eric, but the surface area is not conducive to Dive and Fly like skis, is what I have always noticed since jumping onboard, have you ever seen a narrow Pow board with squal stance angles? when it comes to pow, who cares? It's All Good ! I just preferred my days in Bottomless steep pow on skis, to how I have to stay above on my snowboards...it is just a personal choice from my powder experiences on both pieces of equipment...your O Sin sounds like a Winner as well...Pow is always a Dream, a Good Dream Edited February 9, 2017 by softbootsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, billyt. said: I hope they bring back those day glow graphics! Thanks for sharing the pics. I would love to try one of those "new" powder boards to see how they ride. That Sims board was pretty soft flex if I remember? those early fakies from the volkl ski factory had a lot of spring and the 152 would ollie my then 175 pounds better than anything built in the us at the time, and out carved the burton air and k2 gyrator Edited February 9, 2017 by b0ardski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) I love the OSin / Dynastars too, both versions. The 4807 178 is one of the floatiest boards ever and hauls ass in deep and steep when there's space. The 3800 169 I ride when I know I'll end up in moguls or trees... I don't know why you guys like to go "under". For me the greatest fun in pow is gliding the top like a surfboard and using the board flex and base to carve the turns. How did we ended up "pow riding" in a carving renaissance thread? Back to topic... Edited February 9, 2017 by BlueB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, BlueB said: How did we ended up "pow riding" in a carving renaissance thread? Back to topic... @BlueB because that's BOL. Carve on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Buell said: What is old is new again in multiple ways it seems. If the blunt nose trend continues for a little while, I would not be surprised to see a nose as extreme as the Coiler in the pic on a softboot width board. kinda like SVR's new ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, b0ardski said: kinda like SVR's new ride? FYI- That ride is for sale... I have faced temptation and I'm stronger for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 There is your new board b0ardski! At 182 overall with a stub nose and tail, that is one big board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 size 27s at 30/45 degrees is my preferred stance so waaay too wide for me and did I mention powder tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 17 hours ago, b0ardski said: I agree that round or pointy end of the nose shape is not necessary in pow if and only if you didn't ride in bush-powder ;) round or better pointed nose is yes-yes when riding in tight forest with not completely buried bushes. and I "know" what I'm talking about.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Shogo M Carves on this...Love all the Surf style Carving going on in Japan as well from Naoto and others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, softbootsurfer said: Shogo M Carves on this...Love all the Surf style Carving going on in Japan as well from Naoto and others... That's a crazy duck stance... duck but facing forward... Got any video of that setup in action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Interesting, that's a skwal stance but unusually on soft boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zone said: Interesting, that's a skwal stance but unusually on soft boots. I thought Skwal stance is both slightly below 90 facing the same direction. I gotta dig up my copy of The Inner Glide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Some skwalers advocate a very slightly duck stance. Purists are calling for as close to 0/0 as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just back from ISPO, which is pretty similar to SIA. Maverick was part of the Tailgate Alaska section, which was perfect. Great response for my new line of boards, explaining that they are longboards - not long boards - tuned for carving and big pow days, even die hard freestylers saw the idea behind my shapes. I'm bummed that I will not make it over to US this season so you guys can try. (I have a great deal with free shipping though) And yes they work great with hardboots. But I just love to crank G's with my soft set up. Flow NX2s + Ride Insano boots. Riding 20/35 deg I carve steep slopes with hard man made snow. Carve or die! Mats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2017-02-05 at 8:04 PM, H2O said: I am looking at the Cheater and I'd like to buy it. Is it possible to ride it with hardboots? Sure is. I sold a couple of them to hardbooters. Waist width (25,5) is not an issue for getting on edge. The nose shape and early rise/rocker makes it a real pcket rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Oh, thank you very much for your answer. I was looking at the Cheater beacause it is narrower than Pipeliner (for hardboots), and a bit shorter. Please, may be correct my choice? To use it as an allround board (powder but also variable snows and carving on slopes.....)..... And, what's the stance of inserts? I have seen in your website 54 cm, in the middle? .... as I ride with a stance of 49-50 cm. Thanks again. Edited February 10, 2017 by H2O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Kight Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Nidecker has my attention...that's a beautiful board. Anyone have any idea on where this might be purchased and guesstimate on price? Also interested in those Gray Snowboards mentioned in the soft boot carving video. Wonder if they'd be available in US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Just now, Randy Kight said: Nidecker has my attention...that's a beautiful board. Anyone have any idea on where this might be purchased and guesstimate on price? The catalogs are for next season so the equipment isn't available for purchase, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Kight Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thanks...yes, I noticed the dates. Big thanks for posting this stuff as well! I don't need a new board...but I need one...? I like the idea of a softer all around freecarver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, H2O said: Oh, thank you very much for your answer. I was looking at the Cheater beacause it is narrower than Pipeliner (for hardboots), and a bit shorter. Please, may be correct my choice? To use it as an allround board (powder but also variable snows and carving on slopes.....)..... And, what's the stance of inserts? I have seen in your website 54 cm, in the middle? .... as I ride with a stance of 49-50 cm. Thanks again. Quote Cheater is a great choice. 46 is smallest stance without sliding bindings inwards. So 50 is no probs. Board is a great carver for tighter turns 9,5 m radius. There's a lot of setback and long nose so it's a great hard boot pow board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thank you very much for your answer and see you for the Cheater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 10:24 PM, softbootsurfer said: ...Float from wider noses...more surface area to stay up and out of the Pow...I am sure it is just me, but I dislike wide noses for that very reason...harder to get into the pow, while once below the surface they load up and hold you down...having skied as well for many years prior to snowboarding, there is no comparrison to how you can get down and into the pow on Skis opposed to snowboards and their huge amount of surface area which limits your ability to dive and fly like skis, ... I think you'll find that they're not skiing powder on Miller Softs any more. Seriously, powder skis now work broadly like snowboards, for the reasons you say there - I was riding with people on skis (138) which were combined wider than most snowboards. The reason is precisely the comparison. That said, many modern snowboards ride low, although the Spring Break isn't one of them. None of us are numpty enough to look down, but from the Fish (1997?) onwards many modern boards ride pretty low in the powder. If you really want to get down into it then telemark skis are the best approach, from the photographer's perspective at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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