DEON Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Which plate is this? Thanks RT That plate is a Custom designed plate designed by the rider Mike Trapp aka Mtrappy on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 @ 18-20 <object width="873" height="525"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_PK1mBUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&hd=1&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_PK1mBUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&hd=1&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="873" height="525"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Anyone can help? Sorry that's only pixs I have, board not mine. Many thanks in advance, RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 4x4 and Hangl, should also have Vist inserts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 This board has 6 holes perside straight line For Vist? --> No Centre holes? I know: The 3 screws per bracket => 6 holes perside triangle shape - Older Version The 2 screws per bracket => 4 holes perside Newer version, seen alot on Black Top KST Thanks RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 @ 18-20 Some serious freecarving there! None of this "carving back up the fall line because I can't handle the speed" B.S..... :D greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 This board has 6 holes perside straight lineThe 3 screws per bracket => 6 holes perside triangle shape - Older Version The 2 screws per bracket => 4 holes perside Newer version, seen alot on Black Top KST These seem to be for the new, 2-hole bracket, allowing for entire setup to be mounterd further forward or back? Same idea as the multiple inserts for standard bindings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 <object width="873" height="525"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoZPniRa4c&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&hd=1&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoZPniRa4c&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&hd=1&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="873" height="525"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pukas Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 The latest f/ Tyler's channel on plate development. OT - what boots is he riding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 The development train is moving down the track at top speed!! Tinkler "Top Plate" that was made a month or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Just a quick crop from the vid, for those who wouldn't believe the long front extensions had dampener below. I'm shure that Apex has something similar, if not a big chunk of neoprene that I speculated before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pukas Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Michael. did the embed not work? worked for me when not logged in... here's the link to c&p http://www.youtube.com/user/jewelltyler#p/u/1/wcoZPniRa4c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 These seem to be for the new, 2-hole bracket, allowing for entire setup to be mounterd further forward or back? Same idea as the multiple inserts for standard bindings... guessing regular and goofy hangls with the original brackets a single pack for that setup is indeed 2 holes unless you use ski screws then I'd use all the holes for the bracket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Very early device built by Mike Tinkler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Some of the boards with combination systems of TNT Boards + Plates and Snow Stix = Sweet ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Still waiting for anyone to commit tinkler vs apex less than two weeks to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Just a quick crop from the vid, for those who wouldn't believe the long front extensions had dampener below. I'm shure that Apex has something similar, if not a big chunk of neoprene that I speculated before... YOU were correct. It was not for advertisement :o I would like to show you more of the mechanism. That will have to wait. Check out the videos for some strong hints. Keep in mind, there are multiple systems using Tinkler plates. They are not the same. Mike works with others to build what works with their systems. Got an idea? Money to spend? Mike will be happy to work with you to build out your ideas. Warning, proto types are not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Still waiting for anyone to commit tinkler vs apex less than two weeks to decide. I know my favorite. Unfortunately there are allot of factors in addition to the plates. I.E. Riders?? My hope is a US PGS rider on the podium. Then it is automatically a Tinkler plate on the podium. ;) They have their work cut out. Ben has been hot along with several Canadian riders. Yes, very exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 If the weather doesn't turn around and the and hay bales start poking out John Deere or McCormick might have to come up with some new device ! Thousands of spectators turned away from boarding events due to instability of viewing area bummer for those traveling a distance to view friends in event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 From a purely mechanical point of view, in theory the Apex should work better because it has almost no footprint on the board. As far as I can tell, it basically contacts the board at two lines (bars), so the rest of the board is allowed to flex naturally. The rear bar appears to be fixed and the front bar appears to be able to slide or roll in a slot. Great concept. Jack, I had formed the opposite view of the Apex i.e. fixed, pivoting front rod, with rear rod pivoting and sliding/rolling in a slot. Do you believe there is an advantage to fixing rear? I note that the photos of the F2 Conshox plate http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=287268&postcount=33 shows it attached with front fixed, though I can see no structural reason why it couldn't be attached the other way. The Karl plate appears to have predated the Apex plate in concept. It also has two narrow attachment plates across the snowboard, but I cannot tell whether both pivot points also float, or just front, or just rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Jack, I had formed the opposite view of the Apex i.e. fixed, pivoting front rod, with rear rod pivoting and sliding/rolling in a slot.Do you believe there is an advantage to fixing rear? The hits to the board and rider come from the front of the board, so the front should be floating. This is how WC racers set up their Vist plates. Fixing the front and floating the rear will do something, but it won't be as effective. Consider mountain bikes. If you couldn't afford a full-suspension bike, would you rather have only the front or rear suspension? I note that the photos of the F2 Conshox plate http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=287268&postcount=33 shows it attached with front fixed user error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 There are even very good riders who set up their Vists differently. I think it is also a matter of your riding style and preferences. Some fix the middle on the Vist and let front and rear float. I think the important thing with the "new" plates is that they can compensate or increase certain aspects of your individual riding style. See the different setups for Anderson and Lambert or Karl´s plate which doesn´t suit Grabner supposedly. Some riders are extremely centered. Others tend to bend their upper body more and so have more pressure on the front, etc. Plates can help in various ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 There are even very good riders who set up their Vists differently. I think it is also a matter of your riding style and preferences. Some fix the middle on the Vist and let front and rear float. I have heard of that too, but I've never heard of racers fixing the front....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Apex Snowboards Flexiplate Two "Apex" plates, sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Jasey-Jay Andersen Plate System Described in Detail http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/Reportage.asp?idDoc=104372&autoPlay=http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2010/CBFT/Decouverte201002211830_2.asx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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